What happens if you measure the spin of entangled particle second time

In summary, the spin of a particle can be either always the same or it can be randomly different every time you measure it.
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This is how I understand it: Bohr argued that universe was inherently unpredictable as was the spin of the particle, and it was only based on probabilities. Einstein argued that the spin of the particle was actually always the same, just that our physics is not capable of determining it.

But now if we measure the spin of the particle many times over and if it's always the same, then doesn't that mean einsten was right? Alternatively, if the spin of the particle happens to be random every time then doesn't that make Bohr right?
 
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You can only measure one component of the spin vector at a time. Let's say you measure the z-component over and over, you always get the same result. But let's now say that you measure the z-component, than the x-component, than the z-component. The second measurement of the z-component may be different than the first.
 
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Elvin12 said:
This is how I understand it: Bohr argued that universe was inherently unpredictable as was the spin of the particle, and it was only based on probabilities. Einstein argued that the spin of the particle was actually always the same, just that our physics is not capable of determining it.

But now if we measure the spin of the particle many times over and if it's always the same, then doesn't that mean einstein was right?
Sounds that way, but no...

With the first measurement you'll get spin-up or spin-down with equal probability; and although you know that if someone measures the other particle they'll get the opposite result, the measurement breaks the entanglement so that the two particles will evolve independently from that initial state. If nothing else changes and you do nothing except continue to measure the spin of your particle along the same axis, you'll keep on getting the same result. (If you measure the spin on any other axis, not only will that result be random, but when you go back to measuring on the original axis you'll get a new random result).

This makes it tempting to think that your particle really was spin-up and the other one really was spin-down all along, and that this whole entanglement thing is no more mysterious than picking up one of a pair of gloves, seeing that it's left-handed, and knowing that other member of the pair must be right-handed. That's basically the hidden-variables argument made by Einstein and others.

However, if you google for "Bell's Theorem" you'll find the very convincing argument otherwise. The problem becomes apparent if you consider what happens when you and the person measuring the other particle don't always use the same angle; for example, you both could randomly choose to make a measurement at 0, 120, or 240 degrees. It turns out that there is no way to preassign opposite values for the spin along three different axes that will match the quantum-mechanical prediction and experimental results - we have to accept that the result of that first measurement that breaks the entanglement is random.

So Bohr was right, or at least more right than Einstein.
 

1. What is the concept of entanglement in particle spin measurement?

Entanglement refers to a phenomenon where two or more particles become connected in such a way that the state of one particle is dependent on the state of the other(s). In the context of particle spin measurement, this means that if two entangled particles are measured and found to have opposite spin, then measuring the spin of one particle will automatically determine the spin of the other particle, regardless of the distance between them.

2. What happens if the spin of an entangled particle is measured a second time?

If the spin of an entangled particle is measured a second time, the result will always be the same as the first measurement. This is because the particles are still entangled and their spins are still correlated, even after the first measurement. Therefore, measuring the spin of one particle will always determine the spin of the other particle, regardless of how many times it is measured.

3. Can the spin of an entangled particle be measured simultaneously?

No, the spin of an entangled particle cannot be measured simultaneously. This is due to the principle of quantum indeterminacy, which states that certain properties of particles, such as spin, cannot be precisely determined at the same time. Therefore, if the spin of one entangled particle is measured, the spin of the other particle will be indeterminate until it is measured as well.

4. Is there a limit to the distance between entangled particles for their spins to remain correlated?

There is currently no known limit to the distance between entangled particles for their spins to remain correlated. Experiments have shown that entangled particles can remain correlated even when separated by large distances, such as across the entire width of a laboratory. This is a key aspect of quantum entanglement and has important implications for quantum communication and computing.

5. Can entanglement be used for faster-than-light communication?

No, entanglement cannot be used for faster-than-light communication. While it may seem that measuring the spin of one particle can instantly determine the spin of the other particle, there is no way to control or manipulate the outcome of the measurement. Therefore, it is not possible to use entanglement to transmit information faster than the speed of light.

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