What Happens to Momentum in a Perfectly Elastic Wall Collision?

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The discussion revolves around a perfectly elastic collision involving a particle and a very massive wall. Participants are exploring the implications of momentum conservation in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are analyzing the change in momentum before and after the collision, questioning the direction of momentum and its magnitude. Some express uncertainty about the nature of perfectly elastic collisions and whether the scenario fits the definition.

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There is ongoing exploration of the momentum change, with some participants providing calculations and others questioning the assumptions made about the collision. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Some participants note that perfectly elastic collisions occur in isolated systems, which raises questions about the applicability of the scenario presented.

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[SOLVED] Perfectly Elastic Collision

1. A particle of mass m and speed V collides at a right angle with a very massive wall in a perfectly elastic collision. What is the magnitude of the change in momentum of the particle?


2. P before colision = P after collision.


3. I think the answer is zero. Is this correct?

Thanks in advance! :)
 
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sorry, wrong
 
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Well, it does change direction. :) So it's -1 x P (for the new velocity).
 
Momentum prior to collision: [tex]m\vec{v_1}[/tex]
Momentum after collision: [tex]m\vec{v_2}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{v_1}=v_x \hat{x}[/tex]
[tex]\vec{v_2}=-v_x \hat{x}[/tex]

[tex]\Delta{p}=m(\vec{v_1}-\vec{v_2})[/tex]
[tex]\Delta{p}=m(v_x\hat{x}- - v_x\hat{x})[/tex]
[tex]\Delta{p}=2m v_x \hat{x}[/tex]

Since it asks for magnitude:

[tex]2mv[/tex]
 
Sorry, bill is right, i was wrong.
Perfectly elastic collision occurs in isolated systems tho no? so you can't really consider this a collision, this is like magnitude of velocity in equals to magnitude of velocity out.
 
Bill Foster said:
Momentum prior to collision: [tex]m\vec{v_1}[/tex]
Momentum after collision: [tex]m\vec{v_2}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{v_1}=v_x \hat{x}[/tex]
[tex]\vec{v_2}=-v_x \hat{x}[/tex]

[tex]\Delta{p}=m(\vec{v_1}-\vec{v_2})[/tex]
[tex]\Delta{p}=m(v_x\hat{x}- - v_x\hat{x})[/tex]
[tex]\Delta{p}=2m v_x \hat{x}[/tex]

Since it asks for magnitude:

[tex]2mv[/tex]

Thank you! That makes so much more sense!
 

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