What happens to the current when this solenoid's diameter is doubled?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of doubling the diameter of a solenoid on the current produced during an induction experiment. Participants are exploring concepts related to electromagnetic induction, specifically how changes in geometry affect induced electromotive force (emf) and current.

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  • Participants are considering the relationship between the diameter of the solenoid, the area of magnetic flux, and the number of loops. Questions are raised about how these factors influence the induced current and whether the current remains the same despite changes in area and loop count.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have suggested that while the area increases, the reduction in the number of loops may counterbalance this effect, leading to uncertainty about the resulting current. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various interpretations are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of electromagnetic induction and the relevant equations, with some expressing confusion about the relationships between power, voltage, and current. The original poster has indicated a lack of confidence in their understanding of the physics involved.

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In an induction experiment a tightly wound solenoid is used to produce a current of 2A. The
solenoid is then unwound to make another tightly wound solenoid of twice the diameter.
What current would you expect to get if you use the new solenoid in the same experiment?

I'm new to this forum and I just learned that I'm supposed to show my own effort here or maybe what I understand. Well here it comes (I'm not very good at physics). I've learned in physics class that the induced emf= number of loops times the magnetic field times the change in area over the change in time. I know that the area will be bigger which will make the induced emf bigger, but what about the current, what formula should I use here? Just by thinking about P=IV I get confused since then I would want to know the power and the voltage. Although now that I think of it more, when the diameter is bigger the number of loops around the solenoid are getting less and the area is getting bigger so it's basically the same. So we get the same current in both. Am I thinking right ?
 
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selishaphysic said:
In an induction experiment a tightly wound solenoid is used to produce a current of 2A. The
solenoid is then unwound to make another tightly wound solenoid of twice the diameter.
What current would you expect to get if you use the new solenoid in the same experiment?

If you double the diameter what happens to the area over which there is magnetic flux?
 
LowlyPion said:
If you double the diameter what happens to the area over which there is magnetic flux?

I know that the area will be bigger therefore the flux will be larger, but this doesn't mean that the current will be larger does it? Since the number of loops will be less if the diameter is bigger right? So my conclusion is that the current will be the same since the induced emf is the same. Please tell me if I'm thinking right or wrong.
 
selishaphysic said:
I know that the area will be bigger therefore the flux will be larger, but this doesn't mean that the current will be larger does it? Since the number of loops will be less if the diameter is bigger right? So my conclusion is that the current will be the same since the induced emf is the same. Please tell me if I'm thinking right or wrong.

How much bigger is the area if the diameter is doubled?

What are the equations that determine current from flux?
 

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