What is a Sphere Equation? Help with Chemistry Problem

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The discussion revolves around the confusion regarding the term "sphere equation" in a chemistry homework problem, specifically related to the complete combustion of ethane. Participants clarify that there is no recognized "sphere equation" in chemistry, and suggest that the term may refer to a Newman Diagram or a representation similar to space-filling models. The focus is on how to visually represent the molecular structure of ethane and its combustion reaction, with Newman Diagrams being highlighted as a simple way to depict molecular conformations. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in chemical representations, especially for non-science majors. The exchange concludes with a better understanding of how to approach the homework problem.
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OK, I'm clueless. I have this one homework problem where I am asked to represent a reaction with a "sphere equation". I have no idea what this is and I can't locate it in my book. Wasn't mentioned during lecture either.
Does anyone know what this means? :confused:

Here's the whole problem (maybe it will make sense in context):

a) write a chemical equation for the complete combustion of ethane.
b) represent this equation with Lewis structures.
c) represent this reaction with a sphere equation.
 
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I think they are asking you to draw a picture of the reaction using spheres to represent the atoms of each molecule.
 
Tide said:
I think they are asking you to draw a picture of the reaction using spheres to represent the atoms of each molecule.
hey Tide - thanks for responding. Do you mean kinda like a ball and stick diagram?
 
Yes - but without the sticks!
 
Use x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = c to define the boundaries of spherical surfaces.
 
OK, it seems all she was looking for was a "ball and stick" drawing for each molecule in the reaction, but my space filling representations were acceptable. Darn chemistry! Too much artwork!
 
Math Is Hard said:
OK, I'm clueless. I have this one homework problem where I am asked to represent a reaction with a "sphere equation". I have no idea what this is and I can't locate it in my book. Wasn't mentioned during lecture either.
Does anyone know what this means? :confused:
Here's the whole problem (maybe it will make sense in context):
a) write a chemical equation for the complete combustion of ethane.
b) represent this equation with Lewis structures.
c) represent this reaction with a sphere equation.
MIH : What you want is called a Newman Diagram or Newman representation. That only tells you the conformational arrangement of atoms in a molecule (like ethane), but can not represent a reaction.

There's no such thing in chemistry as a sphere equation for a chemical reaction. At best, you can write an equation of state based on a hard-sphere interaction model, but that has nothing to do with this question.
 
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Description of hard sphere equation.

http://www.math.rutgers.edu/~lebowitz/PUBLIST/jll.pub_43.pdf


It would appear that one is to represent the equation of state as:

p/\rhokT = a(\rho) + b(\rho)/kT + c(\rho)/(kt)2 + . . .

or see if this looks familiar

http://www.zae-bayern.de/ectp/abstracts/maeso1.html

Have you seen the Carnahan-Starling equation yet?

This might be a question for Gokul.
 
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ahh yes.. Newman Diagrams..
http://www.sollicitatiegesprek.nl/newman.jpg
Never heard of 'em!
umm.. before you guys get too carried away, I should tell you this is a class for NON-science majors. :redface: I am lazy as hell, and want to do the LEAST amount of chemistry possible. Here's the description:
Designed for non-science majors, this course examines the concept of the submicroscopic world of chemistry, ranging from protons to proteins in subject matter. Prerequisite: Beginning and Intermediate Algebra for College Students or two years of high school algebra.
And the book is from our friends at The American Chemical Society.
http://www.chemistry.org/portal/a/c/s/1/acsdisplay.html?DOC=education%5Ccurriculum%5Ccontext.html"
 
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Math Is Hard said:
ahh yes.. Newman Diagrams..
http://www.sollicitatiegesprek.nl/newman.jpg
That's the one !

Newman diagrams are very simple things with a fancy name. It's one of the first things you learn in organic chemistry.

Here's what one looks like :

http://www.chem.tamu.edu/organic/Spring2004/Review/Image382.gif
 
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hmm.. y'know Gokul, that doesn't look quite as scary as I imagined. I was curious about it, so I found some explanations of the diagrams here:
http://www.chem.ucalgary.ca/courses/351/Carey5th/Ch03/ch3-diagrams.html
so if I understood what they said correctly, that intersection in the front (of the diagram you posted) represents one carbon atom, and it has CH3, Br, and H attached to it. Then the circle would be another carbon atom (behind it) that the front one is bonded to, and it has CH3 and two H atoms attached to it.
http://www.chem.tamu.edu/organic/Spring2004/Review/Image382.gif
So it's kind of like a perspective drawing?
 
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Yup. That's all it is !
 
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