amezcua said:
Add to the last question the idea of digital watches.The orientation of molecules in the number display will render invisibility possible with a small charge.Some spiders render themselves invisible by rapidly shaking themselves.They had never seen a propellor when they started doing that.
no that's not the same thing. those molecules would be detectable like other molecules if they were in a nebula (if there was enough of it) it wouldn't be dark matter. those are "normal molecules" in the watches and in the spiders
Maybe gravity between flat atoms would be too strong for them to separate. If one wanted a disc shaped atom how much energy would be needed to reshape it ? Is this question just an old "chestnut"?
atoms don't have shapes, they are collections of particles in a stable equilibrium (aka like "orbit") due to their interactions (aka like gravity). the "shape of the atom" is determined by how the electrons interact with themselves mostly. but the "shape of the atom" is statistical/a "probability-cloud", aka, a picture of where the different components are more likely to be at any particular time
so it doesn't make sense to think of atoms themselves as discs or balls
i can tell you're confusing atoms with particles though. you can't have atoms that go through the big bang... the big bang came through a point too small for that, the atoms would break apart even if you could "have atoms before the big bang"
so your question could be rephrased "do particles have a sort of shape, and did the big bang alter the shape of a large set of particles that came into the universe at the start of the universe?"
that question is highly speculative... it's all over the place lol
The centre of my question is the idea of atoms (pre-Big Bang ) being similar in shape to Galaxies which have the familiar flat layout
for this to be the case, the particles would have had to be interacting with each other differently before the big bang, the big bang altering their properties. there is no particular reason to believe this. yeah there are probably a myriad of weird unkown particles in unknown multidimensional universes. but for this particular idea i think it's coming from a misconception of what particles and spacetime actually are (not that anyone knows for sure)