What is the average acceleration of a cart with photogates 30 cm apart?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average acceleration of a cart using photogates 30 cm apart, with specific times recorded for blocked and unblocked states. The initial confusion arises from determining which times to use for calculating velocity and acceleration. Participants clarify that to find average acceleration, one must assume constant acceleration, which can be misleading if the acceleration varies. The calculations presented show a final velocity of 17.143 m/s and an average acceleration of 489.8 m/s² under the assumption of constant acceleration. The conversation concludes with an agreement on the importance of this assumption for accurate calculations.
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If the distance between the photogates in the diagram is 30 cm, and the times for the photogates on the LabQuest are listed as:
Blocked 0.00000
Unblocked 0.00156
Blocked 0.035
Calculate the average acceleration (in fundamental-standard units) of the cart. You should assume and initial velocity of 0 m/s and round your answer to 1 decimal place.

I know the average acceleration equation is delta v over delta t and I know how to find the change in velocity but I'm confused on what times to use.

My attempt:
Velocity=0.30m/(0.035)=8.5714m/s
Acceleration= (8.5714m/s-0m/s)/(0.035s-0s)=244.9m/s^2
 
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curiouspup34 said:
Velocity=0.30m/(0.035)=8.5714m/s
Obviously, the velocity is not constant. Be specific about what velocity this is.
 
haruspex said:
Obviously, the velocity is not constant. Be specific about what velocity this is.
This would be the final velocity
 
curiouspup34 said:
This would be the final velocity
Not according to the way you calculated it.
 
haruspex said:
Not according to the way you calculated it.
Then the average velocity? If this is so, is my issue that I need to find the final velocity because they gave me the initial already?
 
curiouspup34 said:
Then the average velocity? If this is so, is my issue that I need to find the final velocity because they gave me the initial already?
Yes.
You will have to assume constant acceleration (which makes the request to find the average acceleration a bit misleading).
 
haruspex said:
Yes.
You will have to assume constant acceleration (which makes the request to find the average acceleration a bit misleading).
So I would have
v final = (0.30m/.035s)(2) = 17.143 m/s
Avg acceleration = (17.143m/s)/(0.035s)=489.8 m/s^2
 
curiouspup34 said:
So I would have
v final = (0.30m/.035s)(2) = 17.143 m/s
Avg acceleration = (17.143m/s)/(0.035s)=489.8 m/s^2
Yes, but as I wrote you have to assume constant acceleration in order to claim that final velocity, so it is misleading to call the answer an "average" acceleration. If the acceleration is not constant then the average acceleration will not have that value.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes, but as I wrote you have to assume constant acceleration in order to claim that final velocity, so it is misleading to call the answer an "average" acceleration. If the acceleration is not constant then the average acceleration will not have that value.
Yeah that's true! Hm okay well I will assume constant acceleration now and go from there. Thank you for your help!
 
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