What is the average area using polar coordinates?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average area using polar coordinates, specifically focusing on the integration process and the application of polar equations in the context of area calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between Cartesian and polar coordinates, questioning the use of square roots in the equations. There are discussions about the correct formulation of the area integral and the role of the function f(r, θ) within the integral.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various interpretations of the area formula and the integration setup. Some participants offer clarifications regarding the presence of additional factors within the integral, while others express uncertainty about the correct formulation. There is no explicit consensus, but there are indications of productive dialogue as participants refine their understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of polar coordinates and the implications of different mathematical expressions. There is a focus on ensuring that the integration reflects the correct area and function definitions, with some confusion about the assumptions being made in the setup.

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Homework Statement


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Average (area) = 1/Area * integrate of polar

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y= r* sin theta
x= r* cos theta
r^2 = x^2+y^2

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Why the square root ?
 
BvU said:
Why the square root ?
x^2 + y^2 =r^2... OH, so only r not root r! and other than that, its fine?
 
Hi, the ##Area(R)=\pi a^{2}## that you must divide, after ##z(x,y)=f(r,\theta)=\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}=r## and not ##\sqrt{r}##... so inside there is ##r^2## ...
 
so the solution is (1/Area) double integral r dr d(theta) ?
 
No, you have another ##r## inside the integral ...
 
1/Area* ∫∫ r dr dθ is not correct ...?
 
the formula say ##\frac{1}{Area(R)}\int\int_{R}f(r,\theta)rdrd\theta## so you have ##f(r,\theta)\cdot r## inside ...
 
so f(r, θ) makes a r,
then 1/Area* ∫∫ r* r dr dθ
 
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now it is ok, :wink:
 
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thanks buddy!
 
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Ssnow said:
now it is ok, :wink:
And I got the answer as ⅓ a
 
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OK it is ...
 

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