What is the centripetal force exerted on a giant amoeba in a centrifuge?

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The discussion centers on calculating the centripetal force on a giant amoeba in a centrifuge, given specific parameters. The key formulas involved are for velocity and centripetal force, with the user initially struggling due to a rounding error in their calculations. A suggestion was made to use the frequency directly in the velocity formula to avoid inaccuracies from small numbers. After applying the correct approach, the user successfully resolved the issue. The conversation emphasizes the importance of precision in calculations, especially when dealing with small values.
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[SOLVED] HELP! Circular motion problem.

Homework Statement


A test tube in a centrifuge is pivoted so that it swings out horizontally as the machine builds up speed. If the bottom of the tube is 165 mm from the central spin axis, and if the machine hits 59000 revolutions per minute, what would be the centripetal force exerted on a giant amoeba of mass 1.0 x 10^-8 kg at the bottom of the tube?

t=period=1/frequency
r=radius
V=velocity
m=mass=1.0 x 10^-8 kg


Homework Equations



V = (2*pi*r)/T
F=(mv^2)/r

The Attempt at a Solution



r=.165m (converted to m from mm by dividing by 1000)
m=1.0 X 10^-8
f = 983.3 revolutions per second (I changed 59000 rpm to revolutions per sec. by dividing by 60)
T (period) = 1/983.3 ~= .001

V=(2*pi*r)/T
V= ((2*pi)*.165)/0.001
V= 1036.725576 m/s

F=(mv^2)/r
F=((1 x 10^-8)(1036.725^2)) / .165
F=.0651393 N

Now, I've checked my math several times, so I don't think there's a problem with that - I also think I have the correct formulas. I'm thinking this is either a rounding error or I have the period wrong.

The answers I have tried so far: .065, .0651, and .07 - all are wrong somehow.

Can anyone explain what I have done wrong?
 
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I get a different velocity than you. I think the ~0.001 s you are using for T is causing you trouble. Since T = 1/983.3 s just multiply your v = 2*pi*r by 983.3 instead of dividing by 0.001. This will keep more figures.
 
hage567 said:
I get a different velocity than you. I think the ~0.001 s you are using for T is causing you trouble. Since T = 1/983.3 s just multiply your v = 2*pi*r by 983.3 instead of dividing by 0.001. This will keep more figures.

So you're saying do 2*pi*r*f instead of 2*pi*r/T?

I would think you meant divide by f, but why would I divide by f if the formula tells me to divide by the period?
 
No, you're not dividing by f. You can either divide by T or multiply by f, since f = 1/T.

v = 2*pi*r*(1/T) (the way you did it)

which is the same as v = 2*pi*r*f

It's just one way to avoid the 0.001 s. Which I think is you're problem because you rounded it.

Hopefully I'm not confusing you.
 
hage567 said:
No, you're not dividing by f. You can either divide by T or multiply by f, since f = 1/T.

v = 2*pi*r*(1/T) (the way you did it)

which is the same as v = 2*pi*r*f

It's just one way to avoid the 0.001 s. Which I think is you're problem because you rounded it.

Hopefully I'm not confusing you.

Thank you! Turns out it was a rounding error and when I did it the way you did it it worked fine. I will use that formula from now on.
 
There's nothing wrong with the way you were doing it. Either way works and both can be useful. Just be aware of rounding when you're using small numbers.
 
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