What is the coefficient of friction for different surfaces and ramp heights?

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The discussion revolves around an investigation into how different surfaces and ramp heights affect the stopping distance of a toy car, specifically focusing on the coefficient of friction for various surfaces such as carpet and concrete. The original poster expresses difficulty in determining the coefficient of friction for these surfaces in the context of their experimental setup.

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  • Participants explore the nature of friction involved when the toy car rolls down the ramp, questioning whether the friction is influenced by the surface or the car's wheels. Some suggest that the coefficient of rolling friction can be determined through experimental measurements of velocity, stopping time, and distance traveled.

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The discussion includes various attempts to clarify concepts related to the coefficient of friction and the mechanics of the toy car's motion. Participants have raised questions about the relationship between incline angle, speed, and stopping time, with some providing insights into the calculations involved. There is an ongoing exploration of how different factors affect the results, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the measurements may be affected by the ramp's impact on the car's momentum and the nature of the surfaces involved. There is also a recognition that the coefficients discussed are specific to the toy car rather than general for the surfaces themselves.

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COBRA1185 said:
Thanks a lot for your help, would you have any idea how to find the coefficient of the surface which it is rolling onto?

Perhaps you should be trying to investigate something else - using the same apparatus.

Option 1: The relationship between ramp angle and stopping distance

Set the ramp at different angles, but release the toy from the same height [so a shorter distance on the ramp]

If the toy was to go further with a steeper ramp, this may show that Potential Energy is transformed to Kinetic energy more efficiently of a steeper / shallower ramp.


Option 2: Release height vs Stopping distance
Release the toy from greater and greater distances up the ramp [keep angle fixed, but do it for separate angles to confirm that the angle does/doesn't make any difference.

I would suspect one of the following.

Ramp length x two ---> stopping distance x two

Ramp length x two ---> stopping distance x four

Ramp length x two ---> stopping distance x 1.4 [root two]

But it might be something else?

Careful measurement and graphical analysis should lead you to an answer.

You could still vary the level surface to see if the relationship between release height and stopping distance is independent of surface.
[ it might stop quicker on one surface, but the direct/direct square/ direct square-root relationship might still apply?]

Extended Investigations are often about carefully collecting data, and logically and meaningfully analysing it - being sure to consider uncertainties - than actually finding an answer.
 
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I found the coefficient of friction for one surface, and it didnt change, i had put in the wrong starting velocity.
 

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