What is the Derivative of g(x) when x=0 in the Equation g(x) + x sin g(x) = x^2?

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Homework Statement



If g(x) + x sin g(x) = x^2 find g'(0)

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At this point I have tried a few things but hit deadends. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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try using implict differentiation, then sub in for x = 0
 
Or just differentiate.

Show us what you have tried...
 
my first step took me to this:
g'(x) + xcos g'(x) + sin g(x) = 2x
then i set it equal to g'(x)
g'(x)= 2x- sin g(x)/xcos(1)
I would then plug in 0 but that makes the denominator 0
 
chaslltt said:
my first step took me to this:
g'(x) + xcos g'(x) + sin g(x) = 2x

The first, third, and fourth terms are correct, but the second is wrong. To differentiate x sin(g(x)) you need the product rule and the chain rule.
d/dx(x sin(g(x))) = x*d/dx(sin(g(x)) + 1* sin(g(x))

d/dx(sin(g(x)) is NOT cos(g'(x)). That's not how the chain rule works.

What should you get with d/dx(f(g(x))?
 
d/dx f(g(x)) would be f'(x)g(x)*g'(x)
 
Yes. Now what is d/dx(sin(g(x))?
 
cos(g(x))*g'(x)
 
Yes. Now put this back your differentiation problem for the part that was incorrect.
 
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alright i ended up getting
g'(x)= 2x- sin g(x)/(1+cos g(x)
so then i plug in the 0 but what is g(0)
 
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have a look at your original equation, when x = 0
 
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not quite my friends...there is a solution to this one. dig more.
 
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yeah i think we already outlined it
 
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chaslltt said:
alright i ended up getting
g'(x)= 2x- sin g(x)/(1+cos g(x)
so then i plug in the 0 but what is g(0)

First of all there's something missing in this equation: the x in front of cos g(x).
 
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blake knight said:
First of all there's something missing in this equation: the x in front of cos g(x).

You should obtain an equation in the form of: g'(x)=[2x-sin g(x)]/[1+xcos g(x)].
 
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blake knight said:
You should obtain an equation in the form of: g'(x)=[2x-sin g(x)]/[1+xcos g(x)].

Now, understanding what the problem really asks for, it is asking for g'(0), meaning what is the value of g'(x) when x=0.
 
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blake knight said:
Now, understanding what the problem really asks for, it is asking for g'(0), meaning what is the value of g'(x) when x=0.

You can substitute 0 now for x, you will end up getting: g'(0) = -sin g(x)<----this solves the problem.
 
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