What is the difference between differential equations and functions?

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The discussion revolves around the differences between differential equations and functions, exploring the nature of these mathematical concepts. Participants express their confusion and seek clarification on how to identify differential equations compared to functions, including their characteristics and applications.

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  • One participant lists various mathematical concepts, including functions and different types of differential equations, indicating a broad interest in understanding these topics.
  • Another participant seeks to narrow the discussion to recognizing differential equations when encountered.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether certain expressions qualify as differential equations or functions, highlighting a lack of clarity in definitions.
  • A participant provides examples of differential equations and explains their relationship to functions, mentioning the concept of gradients and the infinite number of curves that can satisfy a given differential equation.
  • Concerns about terminology and understanding mathematical language are raised, particularly by non-native English speakers.
  • Participants share resources and links to external materials for further learning about differential equations.
  • There is a discussion about the instantaneous rate of change represented by the gradient in the context of differential equations.

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Participants generally express confusion and seek clarification, indicating that multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the definitions and distinctions between differential equations and functions.

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Some participants mention their lack of familiarity with specific mathematical terms and concepts, which may affect their understanding of the discussion. There is also a recognition that differential equations may have been encountered previously in different forms.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals learning about differential equations and functions, particularly those seeking to understand the distinctions and applications of these concepts in mathematics.

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i have been trying to learn maths from some basics .. because i had to do programming related to maths which was in my college syllabus ...

i have been trying to narrow it down .. because we lacked proper texts and materials to learn it properly ...

the whole thing sort of looked a bit like this ...

mathematical expressions
equations in one variable
equations in two variables
system of 2 equations containing 2 variables
functions in one variable
functions in two variables

differential equations

first order differential equations
second order differential equations
higher order differential equations ...

linear differential equations
separable differential equations
exact differential equations
homogeneous differential equations
non homogeneous differential equations
using the method of undetermined coefficients ...
partial differential equations ...

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Numerical Integration
Solution of Algebraic and Transcendental Equations
Numerical Solution of a system of Linear Equations
Numerical Solution of Ordinary differential equations
Curve fitting
Numerical Solution of problems associated with Partial Differential Equations

Solution of Algebraic and Transcendental Equation
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2.2 Bisection Method
2.3 Method of false position
2.4 Iteration method
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3.3.1 Forward differences
3.3.2 Backward differences
3.3.3 Central differences
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3.5 Differences of a polynomial Interpolation
3.6 Newton's formulae for intrapolation
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3.7.1 Gauss' Central Difference Formulae
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3.11 Inverse interpolation Numerical Differentiation and Integration5.1 Introduction
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5.4.1 Trapizaoidal Rule
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i was wondering about the difference between a differential equations and functions like f(x,y) =

??
 
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rosekidcute said:
i was wondering about the difference between a differential equations and functions like f(x,y) =
Can we narrow this to "how would I recognize a differential equation if I were to encounter one"?
 
is it a differential equation ... ?? i am sorry i am new to differential equation too ...

so its a bit like, function in one variable vs a function in two variables...

i am not sure what to google to learn such functions ...
 
Nidum ,

thanks for the link ...
i have few more doubts ...
the simple differential equations i have encountered .. sorts of looked a bit like this ...

is this a function of one variable or two variables ... ??

differential_equation_answer.png


f_x_y.png


are these differential equations too ??
 
rosekidcute said:
is it a differential equation ... ?? i am sorry i am new to differential equation too ...

so its a bit like, function in one variable vs a function in two variables...

i am not sure what to google to learn such functions ...
Differential equations are different from the algebraic equations you've earlier encountered. If you google "differential equations" I'm sure you'll find everything you could hope for.

A differential equation might look like this: ##\color{blue}{\frac{dy}{dx}=x+3}##

##\frac{dy}{dx}## is a way of expressing the gradient of the curve, and this equation tells you the gradient of the curve as a function of x. There are an infinite number of curves whose gradients satisfy this equation, those curves being all identical except for their intercept on the y-axis. To specify exactly one of those curves, you just also need to indicate a point lying on it, any point will do.

You have already encountered differential equations, though they were in disguise. Recall this equation of motion: ##v=v_{\scriptsize0}+at##, and remember that acceleration is ##\frac{∆v}{∆t}##,
so the equation can be written as ##v=v_{\scriptsize0}+\frac{∆v}{∆t}t##,
or using differentials, as ##v=v_{\scriptsize 0}+\frac{dv}{dt}t##.

So differential equations are not totally new to you, even though this way of writing them is new.
 
thanks NascentOxygen ,

very nice explanation ...

the problem i was facing was that since i am not a native english speaker ...i don't always get the terminologies properly ... i might have to google terms like gradient and things like all that to understand what it really means in mathematics terms ...

few more doubts ..
i am basically trying to understand the difference between these two ..

functions_in_one_variables.png


f_x_y.png


as for differential equations .. i have been making some notes for it in the last couple of days ..so i think i am a bit familiar with differential equations now ..
 
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rosekidcute said:
so this gradient of the curve means ,the instantaneous rate of change of the variable x with respect to y ..
The gradient ##\frac{dy}{dx}## is the instantaneous change of y with respect to x
 
NascentOxygen ,

thanks a lot ...
 

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