What is the difference between norm and modulus?

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The discussion revolves around the differences and similarities between the terms "norm" and "modulus" in mathematics, particularly in the context of vector lengths and distances. Participants explore definitions, contexts, and applications of these terms across various mathematical fields.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the norm is defined as the length of a vector, denoted by ||a||, while modulus |a| also represents the length from the origin.
  • One participant claims there is no difference between the two terms, noting that usage varies among authors.
  • Another participant suggests that norm is a broader concept applicable to various lengths, whereas modulus specifically refers to the Euclidean norm.
  • It is proposed that modulus is associated with the real numbers, complex numbers, and quaternions, while norm encompasses a wider range of distance measures, including various norms in functional analysis.
  • A participant highlights that both terms can be ambiguous and their meanings depend on the mathematical context, with modulus often linked to algebraic and geometric origins and norm to operator algebras.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and contexts of "norm" and "modulus," indicating that multiple competing interpretations exist without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the intended meaning of "norm" and "modulus" can vary based on context, and that the definitions may depend on specific mathematical frameworks or applications.

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norm is defined to be the length of the vector and we put we denote it by ||a||.

However, modulus |a| also means the length of a from the origin?

So, what is the difference between the symbol || || and | |?
 
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There is none. Some authors use one, others use the other.
 
I was always taught that the norm is defined to be any length which satisfies the definition of a norm, but modulus is specifically the Euclidean norm. That could have just been the instructor/book, though I suppose.
 
The modulus is the norm on \mathbb{R}. \left(\mathbb{R},\left| , \right| \right) is a Banach space.
 
I think norm is the length of a point from the origin.

whereas the modulus is more of a distance from one point to another point.

norm is just a specific case of the distance from a point to its origin.
 
The semi-standard usage is that modulus is specialized to the reals (absolute value), complex numbers (complex modulus), and quaternions. However, some write |x| instead of ||x|| to mean norm. Norm is a very generalized concept that covers everything from Euclidean distance to distance as measured on a road grid (taxicab norm) to the L-infinity norm, and beyond. Anything that qualifies as a distance can be used as a norm. Even things much more complex and abstract than vectors can have a norm. Well-defined norms exist for matrices, for example.
 
Actually, both norm and modulus are potentially ambiguous terms in mathematics; the intended meaning depends upon context. Generally speaking, modulus often suggests algebraico-geometric-analytic origins (as in the theory of elliptic functions) while norm tends to suggest operator algebras and functional analysis. In the context of functional analysis, esp. Banach spaces, I agree with DH about what one can reasonably expect "modulus" to denote.
 

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