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I don't understand the difference between them !
Any help ?
Any help ?
The discussion centers on the distinction between velocity and speed, exploring their definitions, implications in physics, and the role of direction in these concepts. Participants engage in clarifying these terms and their applications in various contexts, including theoretical and practical scenarios.
Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of velocity and speed, with no consensus reached on the interpretation of directionality and its impact on acceleration. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of these concepts.
Participants highlight the importance of conventions in defining directions and the potential for confusion when multiple observers are involved. There is also an acknowledgment of the limitations in separating speed from direction in a physical context.
For straight line motion, positive and negative can define directions with respect to some axis. An acceleration is a vector. If it points in the positive direction, it is positive.Danger said:There's no such thing as a "negative direction". An increase in speed is a positive acceleration and a decrease is a negative one.
It's just a convention. It's neither correct not wrong.Danger said:Do you mean that someone can just arbitrarily deem "north" to be positive and "south" to be negative? If so, how do multiple observers decide whose opinion is correct?
This is the layman definition of "acceleration". In physics "acceleration" is the time derivative of velocity, not of speed.Danger said:An increase in speed is a positive acceleration and a decrease is a negative one.
They must all use the same convention, of course. You can also just use "north" and "south" themselves to specify the direction of a vector.Danger said:I don't quite follow that, Al. Do you mean that someone can just arbitrarily deem "north" to be positive and "south" to be negative? If so, how do multiple observers decide whose opinion is correct?
My phrasing might have been ill-advised. I deliberately separated velocity into its two components of speed and direction, but perhaps didn't stress enough that they can't be physically separate from one another. (Nuts! I'm still not expressing myself properly. I think that I'll just go home now. Thanks for the responses, guys.)A.T. said:In physics "acceleration" is the time derivative of velocity, not of speed.