What is the direction of electron flow in electricity?

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The discussion revolves around the direction of electron flow in electricity, specifically addressing the apparent contradiction between the flow of electrons from the negative to the positive terminal of a battery and the conventional current flow from positive to negative. The scope includes conceptual clarification and historical context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • Ramone questions why electricity is said to flow from positive to negative when electrons flow in the opposite direction.
  • Some participants explain that the convention of current flow predates the discovery of the electron, leading to the established terminology.
  • One participant notes that current is defined as the movement of positive charges, which is opposite to the flow of electrons.
  • Another participant references historical figures like Volta and suggests that different choices in the early development of batteries could have led to different conventions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the historical context of the conventions used in describing electric current, but there is no consensus on the implications of these conventions for understanding electron flow.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of the historical choices made regarding charge conventions, nor does it address the nuances of how these conventions affect practical understanding in modern contexts.

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Hello gurus!

I have a novice question. I hope you don't mind me asking this question as it most likely is a very basic question to many.

Electrons flow from -ve to the +ve side of a battery.
Why then do people also say electricity flows from the +ve to the -ve end?
I recall being told the reason many years ago but have forgotten why.
Could you kindly help to expain a bit?

Thanks! :)

sincerely
Ramone
 
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Hello Ramone! :smile:
ramonegumpert said:
Electrons flow from -ve to the +ve side of a battery.
Why then do people also say electricity flows from the +ve to the -ve end?
I recall being told the reason many years ago but have forgotten why.

It's because they decided on +ve and -ve a long time before the electron was discovered, and then they couldn't be bothered to change it. :wink:

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_charge#History" for some details.
 
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By convention the current is equivalent to the movement of + charges, or opposite the motion of negative charges. Before the electron was discovered people thought there were + and - charges, rather than the + charge simply being the absence of electrons.

In a battery a chemical reaction cause the electrons to be attracted to the negative terminal. When placing a short circuit or conductor across the termials, this allows the electrons to flow through the conductor.

In generators, the electrons are moved by time varying or moving magnetic fields.
 
In addition to the above wiki reference, read about Volta, who developed the first battery (pile) ~1800.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaic_pile
If Volta had piled copper on top of zinc, rather than zinc on copper, perhaps the current convention would have been different.
Bob S
 

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