What is the energy of each photon produced in the decay of the pion?

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The discussion revolves around the decay of a neutral pion into two photons, focusing on calculating the pion's velocity, momentum, and the energy of the resulting photons. The pion has a rest mass energy of 135 MeV and a kinetic energy of 90 MeV, leading to a calculated velocity of 0.80c and a momentum of 9.6 x 10^-20 kg m/s. There is confusion regarding the total energy of the photons, with initial calculations suggesting conservation of energy should yield 225 MeV, while photon energy calculated from momentum gives lower values. Participants emphasize that energy must be conserved in the decay process, leading to further exploration of the equations used. The discussion highlights the complexities of applying relativistic equations in particle decay scenarios.
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Homework Statement


The neutral pion is an unstable particle that decays very quickly after its creation into two photons (“particles” of light: v = c, mo = 0). The pion has a rest-mass energy of 135 MeV. Consider a pion that has a kinetic energy of 90 MeV
1) Determine the v of this pion
2) Determine the momentum of the pion
3) Determine the sum of the energies of the photons


Homework Equations


1) moc2\gamma = KE + Rest E
2) mov\gamma = p
3) Ephotons= pc


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm pretty sure I got 1 and 2. For 1 I added the KE + RE, converted to proper units, and finally got v = .80c
For 2 I got p = 9.6 x 10-20 kg m/s
Now I'm not so sure about #3. I think Ephotons = pc because momentum is conserved, and all of the pion's momentum gets turned into the photons' momentum. However, what about adding up the original rest mass energy + KE of the pion? If I do that I get a bigger energy then if I do pc. Thanks for all the help!
 
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cashmoney805 said:

Homework Statement


The neutral pion is an unstable particle that decays very quickly after its creation into two photons (“particles” of light: v = c, mo = 0). The pion has a rest-mass energy of 135 MeV. Consider a pion that has a kinetic energy of 90 MeV
1) Determine the v of this pion
2) Determine the momentum of the pion
3) Determine the sum of the energies of the photons


Homework Equations


1) moc2\gamma = KE + Rest E
2) mov\gamma = p
3) Ephotons= pc


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm pretty sure I got 1 and 2. For 1 I added the KE + RE, converted to proper units, and finally got v = .80c
For 2 I got p = 9.6 x 10-20 kg m/s
Now I'm not so sure about #3. I think Ephotons = pc because momentum is conserved, and all of the pion's momentum gets turned into the photons' momentum. However, what about adding up the original rest mass energy + KE of the pion? If I do that I get a bigger energy then if I do pc. Thanks for all the help!

Just using pure energy conservation, how much energy is there before and after the decay?
 
Nabeshin said:
Just using pure energy conservation, how much energy is there before and after the decay?
According to my calculations, E before = (90 + 135) MeV = 225 MeV
After E = pc = 181.25 MeV
 
I calculated p a different way this time, p = sqrt(2mKE) where m is the relativistic mass. When I do this then multiply p by c to get E, I get E = 201 MeV. Oh boy...

edit: actually I'm not sure if that equation works for speeds close to c...
 
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cashmoney805 said:
According to my calculations, E before = (90 + 135) MeV = 225 MeV
After E = pc = 181.25 MeV

Hrm, you're letting the calculations get bogged down too much. The change in energy is zero, right? You know initial energy, so final energy must be.. the same.
 
I get what you're saying, but I don't understand why the equations don't work here. It seems to me that momentum isn't conserved.
 
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and there is one more part to this problem which I thought I could get myself, but I can't. Here is a pic of the question/diagram

http://i44.tinypic.com/k12kja.gif
 

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