What is the Equilibrium Position of a Pivoting Meter Stick?

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The discussion focuses on the equilibrium position of a pivoting meter stick and the calculations involved in determining its angular frequency and moment of inertia. Participants identify a mistake in the expression for angular frequency, emphasizing the need to correctly interpret the variables involved. The correct formula for moment of inertia is highlighted, and the importance of careful simplification in calculations is stressed. There is encouragement for the user to review their work and clarify the definitions of angular acceleration and frequency. The conversation concludes with a supportive note, wishing good luck on the problem-solving process.
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Homework Statement


A meter stick is free to pivot around a position located a distance x below its top end, where 0 < x < 0.50 m(Figure 1) .

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Your expression for ##I## about the axis of rotation looks correct to me. Although I think I would have just used ##I = I_{cm} + Md^2## with ##I_{cm} = \frac{1}{12} M L^2##.

It appears to me that you have a mistake in the numerator of your expression inside the square root for ##\omega##. Review the general formula for ##\omega## and make sure you are interpreting the symbols correctly.
 
TSny said:
Your expression for ##I## about the axis of rotation looks correct to me. Although I think I would have just used ##I = I_{cm} + Md^2## with ##I_{cm} = \frac{1}{12} M L^2##.

It appears to me that you have a mistake in the numerator of your expression inside the square root for ##\omega##. Review the general formula for ##\omega## and make sure you are interpreting the symbols correctly.
I tried that approach but I failed. Am I annoying?
 

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Hughng said:
I tried that approach but I failed.
It should give the correct answer. If you show your work, we can identify any mistakes. Make sure you are interpreting ##d## correctly. ##d## also occurs in the numerator of ##\omega##.
Am I annoying?
Not at all.
 
TSny said:
It should give the correct answer. If you show your work, we can identify any mistakes. Make sure you are interpreting ##d## correctly. ##d## also occurs in the numerator of ##\omega##.
Not at all.
I think d is the distance from the center to the pivot point which is (1/2 - x)
 
Hughng said:
I think d is the distance from the center to the pivot point which is (1/2 - x)
Yes.
 
TSny said:
Yes.
Can you help me check out my steps please?
 

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You are setting it up correctly, but you need to be more careful with simplifying the expressions. Try it again and take your time.

Also, note that ##\frac {d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is not the correct notation for ##\omega ^2##.
##\frac {d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is the angular acceleration of the rotational motion.
But ##\omega## is the angular frequency of the simple harmonic motion; i.e., ##\omega = \frac{2 \pi}{T}##, where ##T## is the period of the simple harmonic motion.
 
TSny said:
You are setting it up correctly, but you need to be more careful with simplifying the expressions. Try it again and take your time.

Also, note that ##\frac {d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is not the correct notation for ##\omega ^2##.
##\frac {d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is the angular acceleration of the rotational motion.
But ##\omega## is the angular frequency of the simple harmonic motion; i.e., ##\omega = \frac{2 \pi}{T}##, where ##T## is the period of the simple harmonic motion.
Yes I know that. I will take a look tomorrow again for my expression. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Have a good night!
 
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OK. Good luck with it.
 
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