What is the factorization of x^4-2x^3+3x^2-2x+1?

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The discussion revolves around the factorization of the polynomial x^4 - 2x^3 + 3x^2 - 2x + 1 and the related equations x^7 + y^7 = 1 and x + y = 1. Participants explore methods to factor the quartic polynomial, with a consensus that it can be expressed as (x^2 - x + 1)^2. They also discuss the implications of substituting y = 1 - x into the equations and the nature of the roots, noting that the quartic must have four complex roots due to its degree. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationships between the equations to derive the correct factorization. Ultimately, the factorization is confirmed, and participants express confidence in their approach to solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


Given:
x7 + y7 =1
x + y = 1

Find the integer value(s) of (x-y)2.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I thought of substituting for y and then finding the rational roots but then I realized x and y don't have to be rational numbers for (x-y)^2 to be an integer. I am 90% sure the only solution is 1 (when x=1,y=0 or x=0,y=1) but don't know how to prove it. Any hint? Thanks.
 
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cupcakes said:

Homework Statement


Given:
x7 + y7 =1
x + y = 1

Find the integer value(s) of (x-y)2.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I thought of substituting for y and then finding the rational roots but then I realized x and y don't have to be rational numbers for (x-y)^2 to be an integer. I am 90% sure the only solution is 1 (when x=1,y=0 or x=0,y=1) but don't know how to prove it. Any hint? Thanks.
What are the solutions to the system of equations:

x7 + y7 =1

x + y = 1

?
 
I think I'm very close to solving it. I substituted y= (1-x) in the first equation and expanded. Then I factored that. However I don't know how to factor the last term.

x4-2x3+3x2-2x+1

WolframAplha say it can be factored into (x2-x+1)2. I just need to figure out how to factor that into this and then I'm done (I think). Any ideas? Thanks.
 
cupcakes said:
I think I'm very close to solving it. I substituted y= (1-x) in the first equation and expanded. Then I factored that. However I don't know how to factor the last term.

x4-2x3+3x2-2x+1

WolframAplha say it can be factored into (x2-x+1)2. I just need to figure out how to factor that into this and then I'm done (I think). Any ideas? Thanks.
How did you get to that expression?
Expanding (1-x)7 allows us to cancel the 1 and -x7 terms, so the highest power of x is 6, then after dividing through by x it should be a max power of 5.
 
Mentallic said:
How did you get to that expression?
Expanding (1-x)7 allows us to cancel the 1 and -x7 terms, so the highest power of x is 6, then after dividing through by x it should be a max power of 5.

Exactly. After expanding and canceling out we have:

7x6 - 21x5 + 35x4 - 35x3 + 21x2 - 7x.

First I divided by (7x). Then I realized (x-1) is a factor (since x=1 is a zero). After long division I have:

(7x)(x-1)(x4 - 2x3 + 3x2 - 2x + 1)
 
Ahh ok so you already factored out the x=1 factor.

So it's a quartic and hence it must have 4 complex roots. But since all the coefficients are real, the complex roots must come in complex conjugate pairs, and when you expand out (x-\alpha)(x-\beta) where \alpha, \beta \inℂ it must be equal to a quadratic with real coefficients.

So, with this we can deduce that the quartic must be able to be factorized into

(x^2+ax\pm 1)(x^2+bx\pm 1)

And expanding that, then equating coefficients we can deduce a=b=-1 and we need to take the positive of the /pm operator.
 
cupcakes said:

Homework Statement


Given:
x7 + y7 =1
x + y = 1

Find the integer value(s) of (x-y)2.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I thought of substituting for y and then finding the rational roots but then I realized x and y don't have to be rational numbers for (x-y)^2 to be an integer. I am 90% sure the only solution is 1 (when x=1,y=0 or x=0,y=1) but don't know how to prove it. Any hint? Thanks.

One way to proceed is to look for the intersection of the two graphs y = 1 - x and y = (1-x^7)^(1/7). For the latter: look at the graph y vs x for x^n + y^n = 1. When n = 1 you get the line x+y=1. When n = 2 you get the circle x^2 + y^2 = 1, a circle of radius 1 passing through the points (1,0) and (0,1). What happens if n > 2? Well, any point (x,y) in the interior of the first quadrant and on the circle x^2 + y^2 = 1 must lie to the left and below the curve y = f(x) for x^n + y^n = 1. This is because such a point on the circle has 0 < x < 1 and 0 < y < 1, so x^n < x^2 and y^n < y^2, hence x^n + y^n < 1. That means we need to increase x and/or y to bring the quantity x^n + y^n up to 1. In other words, for n > 2 the graph is outside the circle except at the ends (1,0) and (0,1). That means that the intersection of the graph with x + y = 1 is easy to ascertain.

RGV
 
cupcakes said:
I think I'm very close to solving it. I substituted y= (1-x) in the first equation and expanded. Then I factored that. However I don't know how to factor the last term.

x4-2x3+3x2-2x+1

WolframAplha say it can be factored into (x2-x+1)2. I just need to figure out how to factor that into this and then I'm done (I think). Any ideas? Thanks.
Split the 3x2 into x2 + 2x2 .

x4-2x3+3x2-2x+1
=x4-2x3+x2 + 2x2-2x+1

=(x2-x)2 + 2(x2-x) + 1

...​
 
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