What is the final velocity of a particle in a force field around point O?

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The discussion revolves around determining the final velocity of a particle in a force field centered around point O, specifically when the particle starts at rest from a negligible distance away from O. The focus is on the theoretical and mathematical aspects of calculating work done by the force and its relation to kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the force as a function of distance from O, defined as F = cos(d/5), and seeks guidance on finding the final velocity of the particle.
  • Another participant suggests calculating the work done on the particle as it moves to distance d from O, and then determining the velocity corresponding to that kinetic energy.
  • A participant questions the meaning of "negligible distance" in the context of the problem, seeking clarification on its implications for calculations.
  • One participant explains that "negligible distance" allows for using zero as the lower limit for integration, noting the classical physics principle that two particles cannot occupy the same point.
  • Another participant confirms that the particle is effectively moving from 0 to d, aligning with the previous explanation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of calculating work done and its relation to kinetic energy. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the interpretation of "negligible distance" and its implications for the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of "negligible distance" fully, leaving open questions about its precise definition and application in the calculations.

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A force field is maintained around point O, a particle with mass m is experiencing a force F in the force field. F as a function of the particle's distance from O is: F = cos(d/5) How does one go about looking for the final velocity of the particle if it began at rest at a negligible distance away from point O?
 
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Calculate the work done on the particle by the force in moving it to distance d away from O. Then find the velocity at which the mass has that kinetic energy.
 
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andrewkirk said:
Calculate the work done on the particle by the force in moving it to distance d away from O. Then find the velocity at which the mass has that kinetic energy.
Absolutely. That is the way to go. The only question I have is, what exactly does the statement of the problem mean by the word, "negligible distance".?
 
In practice it means you can use zero as the lower limit for your integration. I expect the reason they said 'negligible distance' rather than 'start at O' is that usually when forces are symmetrically arranged around a point it's because there's a particle at that point, and two particles can't occupy the same point in classical phycics.
 
andrewkirk said:
In practice it means you can use zero as the lower limit for your integration. I expect the reason they said 'negligible distance' rather than 'start at O' is that usually when forces are symmetrically arranged around a point it's because there's a particle at that point, and two particles can't occupy the same point in classical phycics.
Ah! So the particle is moving effectively from 0 to d?
 
Yes, I think that is the intent of the question.
 

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