What is the Geometric Approach to Proving Least Squares Approximation?

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The discussion revolves around the geometric approach to proving the least squares approximation, particularly in the context of a system of equations with more unknowns than equations. Participants are exploring the implications of their findings and the nature of the problem itself.

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  • Participants discuss the lack of a solution due to the system's structure and the implications of their findings regarding specific values for variables. There are attempts to articulate the proof for part (c) without relying on formal theorems or formulas. Some participants suggest that a geometric interpretation may simplify the understanding of the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions for approaching the problem. There is recognition of the geometric perspective as a valuable approach, and some participants have indicated progress in understanding the problem through the shared explanations.

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Samuel Williams
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My apologies for having to post in an image, my latex skills are not good enough for the question at hand :(

a) There is no solution since the system has more unknowns than equations (the equations are equal giving 1=2 which does not make sense).

b) I get a solution of \begin{bmatrix}1 \\1 \\ 3/2 \end{bmatrix}
for u.

c) I am not sure how to prove this directly, since there are no values for x,y or z.
 
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First off, I do not see the picture for the problem, just the solution. Second, you should use the homework template in this forum.
 
Samuel Williams said:


My apologies for having to post in an image, my latex skills are not good enough for the question at hand :(

a) There is no solution since the system has more unknowns than equations (the equations are equal giving 1=2 which does not make sense).

b) I get a solution of \begin{bmatrix}1 \\1 \\ 3/2 \end{bmatrix}
for u.

c) I am not sure how to prove this directly, since there are no values for x,y or z.
If the problem is not very complicated to state, just type it out in plain text. LaTeX is great, but don't let not knowing it stand in your way.
 
Again, my apologies. It seems that I accidentally deleted the image.
So these are the questions
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I did (a) and (b) as mentioned above and there are no relevant formulae or theorems that I am aware of for part (c).
 
Right. For part b, anything that lands you at x - y + z = 3/2 is correct.
For part c, you are asked to show that any other choice for x, y, z such that x-y+z is not equal to 3/2, (x-y+z - 1)^2 + (x-y+z-2)^2 > (3/2 - 1)^2 + (3/2-2)^2 and equal only when x-y+z = 3/2.
There are plenty of methods to attack the problem, but you should be able to make a good argument without referring to formulae or theorems.
 
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Samuel Williams said:
Again, my apologies. It seems that I accidentally deleted the image.
So these are the questions
O6gHNRY.jpg
I did (a) and (b) as mentioned above and there are no relevant formulae or theorems that I am aware of for part (c).

For (c), Least Squares is supposed to minimize the norm as defined. I think it minimizes the L^2 -norm. Still, you have a reference there for SG section 12.6. Did you check it out?
 
RUber said:
Right. For part b, anything that lands you at x - y + z = 3/2 is correct.
For part c, you are asked to show that any other choice for x, y, z such that x-y+z is not equal to 3/2, (x-y+z - 1)^2 + (x-y+z-2)^2 > (3/2 - 1)^2 + (3/2-2)^2 and equal only when x-y+z = 3/2.
There are plenty of methods to attack the problem, but you should be able to make a good argument without referring to formulae or theorems.

Thanks, I managed to find a solution to the problem with your explanation to the question.
 
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Nice geometric approach, RUBER, recognizing that the "bisecting" plane is in the solution set, much simpler than anything I had in mind.
 
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