What is the Indefinite Integral of x*arsinh(x^2)?

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The discussion revolves around finding the indefinite integral of the function x * arsinh(x^2). Participants are exploring various methods and clarifying terminology related to inverse hyperbolic functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for a u-substitution and integration by parts, with some confusion regarding the correct function notation (arsinh vs. arcsin). There are attempts to clarify the integration process and the reasoning behind the choice of substitution.

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The discussion includes multiple interpretations of the problem and terminology. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their approaches, while others provide insights into the notation used for inverse hyperbolic functions. There is no explicit consensus on the final solution, but guidance has been shared regarding the integration techniques.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention differing conventions in writing inverse hyperbolic functions, indicating a potential source of confusion. There is also a reference to a specific method of performing integration by parts that may not have been applied correctly initially.

Electrifying
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Hi guys, I don't even know where to begin with this question.

Find the following indefinite integral:

\int x.arsinh (x^2) dx

Thanks very much for any help, its much appreciated.
 
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Well, first you'll need a u-substitution and then integration by parts. The u-sub is simple, so I'll skip that part. For the integration by parts, try putting u=arcsin(x) and dv=dx.
 
Thanks for that, I got the following final answer:

\frac{1}{2}. (x^2 .arsinh(x^2) - ln(1+x^4)^{0.5}) +C

Oh and why let u=arcsin(x) for the sub? I assume you meant arsinh and just misread?
 
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Electrifying said:
Thanks for that, I got the following final answer:

\frac{1}{2}. (x^2 .arsinh(x^2) - ln(1+x^4)^{0.5}) +C

Oh and why let u=arcsin(x) for the sub? I assume you meant arsinh and just misread?
The substitution should be u = arc[/color]sinh(x). There is no arsinh function.
 
Woops! I thought that read arcsin(x)! My bad.
 
Stimpon said:

Thanks, I did the second step of the parts with the wrong inspection method (used the log method instead of the raise the power and check co-efficient method). I'm now at the right answer, thanks for your help everyone, and thanks for that website too. Also about the arcsinh thing, we've been taught to write inverse hyperbolic trig functions as arsinh, arcosh etc. rather than arc. Maybe its just an English convention, or did my sixth form teach me wrong?
 
Electrifying said:
Thanks, I did the second step of the parts with the wrong inspection method (used the log method instead of the raise the power and check co-efficient method). I'm now at the right answer, thanks for your help everyone, and thanks for that website too. Also about the arcsinh thing, we've been taught to write inverse hyperbolic trig functions as arsinh, arcosh etc. rather than arc. Maybe its just an English convention, or did my sixth form teach me wrong?
Did your teacher also write arcsin and arccos as arsin and arcos?
 
No they were written as arcsin and arccos. It was just the hyperbolic ones that were written without a c.
 
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arsinh and arcosh are the correct forms; they stand for "area hyperbolic sine" and "area hyperbolic cosine", respectively.
 
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Char. Limit said:
arsinh and arcosh are the correct forms; they stand for "area hyperbolic sine" and "area hyperbolic cosine", respectively.
Well, you learn something every day.
 

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