What is the Integral of f(x)g'(x) for Given Values of g(x)?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around estimating the integral \(\int_{0}^{10} f(x) g'(x) dx\) where \(f(x) = x^{2}\) and \(g(x)\) is defined by specific values in a table. Participants are exploring how to approach this integral given the discrete nature of \(g(x)\).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using integration by parts, with one suggesting \(u = x^{2}\) and \(v' = g'(x)\). There are attempts to evaluate the integral \(\int_{0}^{10} 2xg(x)dx\) based on the provided values of \(g(x)\). Some participants question how to handle the integration of \(g(x)x^{2}\) at the endpoints and whether there are alternative methods to estimate the area under the curve.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into estimating the area under the curve for \(2xg(x)\) using the given values. There is acknowledgment that an exact solution is not feasible due to the lack of a functional form for \(g(x)\), and suggestions for approximating the integral using polynomial fitting have been made. The conversation is ongoing, with participants actively seeking clarification and further guidance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge posed by the discrete values of \(g(x)\) and the implications for calculating the integral. There is a recognition that the problem may not require overly complex solutions, and the focus remains on estimation techniques.

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Homework Statement



Estimate \int_{0}^{10} f(x) g'(x) dx for f(x) = x^{2}
and g has the values in the following table.

<br /> \begin{array}{l | c|c|c|c|c|c |} <br /> \hline<br /> \hline g&amp;0&amp;2&amp;4&amp;6&amp;8&amp;10\\<br /> \hline g(x)&amp;2.3&amp;3.1&amp;4.1&amp;5.5&amp;5.9&amp;6.1\\<br /> \hline<br /> \end{array}<br />



Homework Equations



\int uv&#039; dx = uv = \int u&#039;v dx


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so, since f(x) is x squared i chose

u = x^{2} and v' = g'(x)
&
u' = 2x dx and v = g(x)

plugging in...

g(x)x^{2} - \int_{0}^{10} 2xg(x) dx

and this is where I am stuck. I can't plug in the g values because i first need to take the integral of 2xg(x) ...I think. lol

a nudge in the right direction would be ub3r helpful and much appreciated. thanks!

ps. that latex table took me like a half hour to figure out rofl :biggrin:
 
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Well, the integral

\int_0^{10} 2xg(x)dx

gives the area under the curve 2xg(x) between x=0 and x=10.

You are given g(x)at certain points along the interval, so what is 2xg(x) at those points? Draw a picture and see if you can find a way to estimate the area under 2xg(x):wink:
 
\int_0^{10} 2xg(x)dx

when x= 0, 2xg(x) = 0
x=2, 2xg(x) = 2(2)(3.1) = 12.4
x=4, 2xg(x) = ... = 32.8
x=6, 2xg(x) = ... = 66
x=8, 2xg(x) = ... = 94.4
x=10, 2xg(x) = ... = 122

connect thesse and estimate area under from 0 to 10?
makes sense, but is there any other way to solve the problem?
 
Because you are only given a few values of g(x) and not an explicit functional no exact solution will be possible.

You might be able to get a slightly more accurate value by fitting a 4th degree polynomial to the points you are given, but it will still just be an approximation and I don't think your instructor is looking for anything that complicated.
 
okay awesome! thanks for helping me out!
 
oh wait how do i work in that g(x)x^{2} part
 
Spartan029 said:
oh wait how do i work in that g(x)x^{2} part

You mean
g(x)x^2|_0^{10}

right?:wink:

Remember, integration by parts means that uv is evaluated at the endpoints of your integration interval.
 
gabbagabbahey said:
You mean
g(x)x^2|_0^{10}

right?:wink:

Remember, integration by parts means that uv is evaluated at the endpoints of your integration interval.

geez this problem is pwning me lol.
so we go...

g(x)x^2 - \int_0^{10} 2xg(x)dx
(2.3)(0) - 2(0)(2.3) = 0, for x=0
(3.1)(4) - 2(2)(3.1) = 0, for x=2
(4.1)(16) - 2(4)(4.1) = 54.4, for x=4
(5.5)(36) - 2(6)(5.5) = 132, for x=6
...and so on...

calculate area under (connected) points (0,0) (0,0) (4, 54.4) (6, 132) ...?
 

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