What is the intersection of two lines and how is it determined?

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The discussion revolves around determining the relationship between two lines, L1 and L2, in three-dimensional space. Participants explore whether the lines are parallel, skew, or intersecting, and if they intersect, how to find the point of intersection.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants analyze the direction vectors of the lines to determine their relationship, questioning whether they are parallel or skew. They set up a system of equations to find the intersection point and discuss the validity of their approaches.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants checking each other's work and attempting to solve the system of equations. There is a recognition of potential inconsistencies in the solutions, and some participants suggest alternative methods for solving the equations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which require them to determine the nature of the lines and find the intersection if applicable. There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of their findings regarding the lines' relationships.

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Determine wether the lines L1, L2 are parallel, skew or intersecting. If they intersect, find the point of intersection.


L1 = [tex]\left(\begin{array}{ccc}x\\y\\z\end{array}\right) =[/tex] [tex]\left(\begin{array}{ccc}1\\2\\0\end{array}\right)[/tex] [tex]+ t \left(\begin{array}{ccc}1\\-1\\3\end{array}\right)[/tex]

L2 = [tex]\left(\begin{array}{ccc}x\\y\\z\end{array}\right) =[/tex] [tex]\left(\begin{array}{ccc}2\\1\\4\end{array}\right)[/tex] [tex]+ s \left(\begin{array}{ccc}-1\\2\\1\end{array}\right)[/tex]


For some [tex]t, s \in R[/tex]





3. The Attempt at a Solution

I believe L1 & L2 are not parallel because their direction vectors aren't multiples of each other.

The dot product of their direction vectors are zero; this tells us that they are orthogonal/skew and not parallel.

To find the intersection point we say: L1 = L2

x1 = x2

[tex]\left(\begin{array}{ccc}1\\2\\0\end{array}\right)[/tex] [tex]+ t \left(\begin{array}{ccc}1\\-1\\3\end{array}\right) =[/tex] [tex]\left(\begin{array}{ccc}2\\1\\4\end{array}\right)[/tex] [tex]+ s \left(\begin{array}{ccc}-1\\2\\1\end{array}\right)[/tex]

yields the following system of linear equations;

1+t = 2-s
2-t = 1+2s
3t = 4+s

I think maybe it can be re-written as:

t+s = 1
-t-2s = -1
3t-s = 4

Is my working correct so far? If yes, can you guys show me how to solve this set of simultaneous equations to find the actual point of intersection please. Thanks.

 
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Hi roam! :smile:
roam said:
t+s = 1
-t-2s = -1
3t-s = 4

Is my working correct so far?

Perfect! :biggrin:

And the trick now is to solve two of the equations (I'd suggest the first two :wink:), and see whether the result fits the third one.

Have a go! :smile:
 
Thanks for checking my work. :smile: :smile:

I don't know how to solve this simultaneous equation but I'll have a go;

(1) t+s = 1
(2) -t-2s = -1
(3) 3t-s = 4


If (2) is true then t = 1-2s

And if (1) is true then t+s = 1 => t = 1-s

If (1) and (2) are both true then;

1-2s = 1-s
s = 0

Now from equation (1)
t+s = 1
t = 1

You see? My solutions never fits the third one, what did I do wrong? :rolleyes:
 
roam said:
(1) t+s = 1
(2) -t-2s = -1
(3) 3t-s = 4

If (2) is true then t = 1-2s

And if (1) is true then t+s = 1 => t = 1-s

If (1) and (2) are both true then;

1-2s = 1-s
s = 0

Now from equation (1)
t+s = 1
t = 1

oooh, this is so long-winded.

First, you don't have to say "if (2) is true …": just say "from (2) …"

Second, how about just adding (1) and (2)? :smile:
You see? My solutions never fits the third one, what did I do wrong? :rolleyes:

Nothing! :rolleyes:

Read the question
roam said:
Determine wether the lines L1, L2 are parallel, skew or intersecting. If they intersect, find the point of intersection.

so … ? :smile:
 
so … ? :smile:

So, what can we conclude from this? Does this tell us the system has no solution ie. the system is inconsistent?


Determine wether the lines L1, L2 are parallel, skew or intersecting. If they intersect, find the point of intersection.

Therefore there is no intersection. The lines are skew (they are orthogonal but do not meet).

:rolleyes:
 
roam said:
Therefore there is no intersection. The lines are skew (they are orthogonal but do not meet).

:rolleyes:

:biggrin: Woohoo! :biggrin:
 

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