What is the length of the curve r(t) with given parametric equations?

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The discussion revolves around finding the length of a curve defined by the parametric equations r(t) = <2t^(3/2), cos(2t), sin(2t)> for the interval 0 ≤ t ≤ 1. The participants are exploring the application of calculus concepts, particularly integration, to solve this problem.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to compute the length of the curve using the formula for arc length and expresses uncertainty about their approach and the need to memorize integral forms. Other participants suggest using u-substitution as a method to simplify the integral.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing guidance on integration techniques and discussing the necessity of memorization versus understanding methods. There is a recognition of the u-substitution method as a viable approach, though no consensus on the original poster's method has been reached.

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Some participants note that familiarity with integration techniques, such as u-substitution, is expected, particularly for those in introductory calculus courses. There are also off-topic discussions regarding the formatting of mathematical expressions in the forum.

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Homework Statement



Find the length of the curve r(t) = <2t3/2 , cos 2t, sin 2t>, for 0<= t <=1


Homework Equations



L = \int\sqrt{(dx/dt)^2+(dy/dt)^2+(dz/dt)^2}dt

The Attempt at a Solution



(dx/dt)2 = (3t1/2)2
(dy/dt)2 = (-2 sin(2t))2
(dz/dt)2 = (2 cos(2t))2

\int\sqrt{9t+4sin^2 (2t) + 4 cos^2 (2t)}dt

and since sin^2 + cos^2 = 1, that reduces to:

\int\sqrt{9t+4}dt

I found a site that had an identity for integrals with square roots, and this resembles number 6 on the list:
http://www.sosmath.com/tables/integral/integ4/integ4.html

so using that identity, I get
2\sqrt{(9t+4)^3} / 27 evaluated from 0 to 1

Is my approach correct, and if so, should I just keep these integrals on hand, or do I need to memorize all those forms?
 
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you should know how to calculate this integral.
Exchanging variables, you can define u=9t+4. then du = 9dt. = > dt = du/9
So:
int {sqrt(9t+4)}dt = int {sqrt(u)/9}du = (1/9)*(u^(3/2))/(3/2).
Then stick u = 9t+4 back and use the upper and lower limits.

So, to answer your question - it's not that you should know this integral by heart, but you should be able to solve it using basic techniques.
Hope that was clear, and that it answered your question.
 
I don't see any problem. You should be familiar with a method of integration called u-substitution that would do the trick. If you're in a Calc I class, then you might learn this soon.
 
doh! of course. I don't know why I couldn't see it as a u substitution problem. Thanks all for the responses.
 
You're welcomed :)
By the way - off topic, but - could you tell me how I write formulas here? Do I need some kind of a program, or is it a code, or what?
New here...
 
At first it's really tedious, but once you start to get the hang of it, it's not that bad. When you're posting, there is a series of controls at the top of the box. the sigma will bring up a clickable interface so you can choose different symbols, and the subscript and superscript symbols are pretty useful too. once you get the hang of using it, it's pretty easy to just type in the code as you go along. just don't forget to close your tags, otherwise the output won't look right. : )
 
Thanks man. Have some Grog :)
\int\sqrt{(4)^{2}}

*practicing.
 

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