What is the Limit of (x + 1)ln x as x Approaches 0?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression (x + 1)ln x as x approaches 0, which involves logarithmic functions and limits. Participants are exploring the application of L'Hopital's Rule in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss attempts to apply L'Hopital's Rule to evaluate the limit, with some questioning the validity of their differentiation steps and the resulting forms. There is confusion regarding the handling of indeterminate forms and the separation of terms in the limit process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the limit using L'Hopital's Rule. Some have clarified misconceptions about differentiating parts of the expression separately, while others are still grappling with the implications of their calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of indeterminate forms and the challenges of working with logarithmic expressions as x approaches 0. Participants express uncertainty about the proper application of L'Hopital's Rule and the resulting limits.

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Homework Statement


lim as x approaches 0 of (x + 1)ln x

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using ln y = (ln x)[ln (x + 1)]
then:
ln (x + 1)
----------
1
---
ln x
to make it eligible for L'Hopital's Rule. Then differentiating the numerator and the denominator, I got:
1
---
x + 1
-------
-1
---------
x(ln x)2
Then I brought the denominator of the denominator up:
-x(ln x)2
----------
x + 1

The answer is supposed to be 1. Therefore my differentiating should have evaluated to 0. Doesn't my answer give -infinity? Please help. I suck at ln and e. I must have missed something.
 
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-x(ln x)^2/(x+1) is still an indeterminant form as x->0, ln(x)->-infinity. You'll have to apply l'Hopital again to figure out the limit of the numerator.
 
Thank you for replying.

I did that, and I got: - 2 ln x - (ln x)2, which is inf - inf. I'm rather confused how to convert that to numerator/denominator form again, though.
 
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You want the limit of -x*ln(x)^2. First write it as -ln(x)^2/(1/x). I'm not sure how you got what you got.
 
Ah. My mistake. You said "numerator". I hadn't realized that once you'd found the limit of either numerator or denominator you could go to work on each separately (I thought if you used L'Hopital you always had to differentiate both haha).

Anyway, after a couple more differentiations of the numerator I eventually got -2x which would indeed make the whole thing zero. Thanks. :!)
 
Right. Once you know the limit of a part of an expression you can set it aside and just work with the rest using l'Hopital. It simplifies the expressions.
 

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