What is the magnetic boundary conditions between air and copper?

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The discussion centers on the magnetic boundary conditions between air and copper, specifically addressing the behavior of surface current density (\vec{J_s}) in perfect conductors. It is established that static magnetic fields can penetrate ideal conductors like copper, while time-varying fields cannot. The participants clarify that the current density of free electric charge (\vec{J_{free}}) is constrained at the surface of ideal conductors, and they reference the relevant boundary conditions for magnetic fields as outlined in electromagnetic theory.

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  • Understanding of electromagnetic theory, specifically boundary conditions for magnetic fields.
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  • Knowledge of current density concepts, including surface current density (\vec{J_s}) and free current density (\vec{J_{free}}).
  • Basic grasp of static versus time-varying magnetic fields and their interactions with conductors.
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  • Investigate the mathematical formulations related to current density in conductors, including the formula \hat{n_2} X ( \vec{H_2} - \vec{H_1}) = \vec{J_s}.
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I understand [itex]\vec J_{free}[/itex] only exist on boundary surface of perfect conductors. Copper is close enough and have surface current. Also copper is paramagnetic material which implies [itex]\mu_{cu} = \mu_0[/itex] or very very close.

In order to find the exact angle of the of the magnetic field inside the perfect conductor like copper, we need to know the magnitude of the current density. My question is how do I find the quantity of the surface current density?

I read somewhere that I cannot find again...that static magnetic field cannot penetrade perfect conductor. Is this true?

Thanks
 
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If by [itex]J_{free}[/itex] you mean current density of free (as opposed to bound) electric charge, that can exist inside an ideal conductor, the only things constrained at the surface of ideal conductors are static charge and time-varying currents.

The boundary conditions for magnetic fields across an interface can be found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_conditions_for_electromagnetic_fields"

A static magnetic field can exist inside an ideal conductor, time varying fields cannot.
 
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dgOnPhys said:
If by [itex]J_{free}[/itex] you mean current density of free (as opposed to bound) electric charge No, it is the free [itex]\vec {J_s}[/itex] , that can exist inside an ideal conductor, the only things constrained at the surface of ideal conductors are static charge and time-varying currents.

The boundary conditions for magnetic fields across an interface can be found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_conditions_for_electromagnetic_fields"

A static magnetic field can exist inside an ideal conductor, time varying fields cannot.

Thanks for your reply. I figure that the static mag field can penetrate an ideal conductor. I forgot the formula

[tex]\hat {n_2} X ( \vec {H_2} - \vec {H_1}) = \vec {J_s}[/tex]

But that also bring back to the point that by definition of tangential boundary condition that the current is limited on the surface as the formula indicated. But I can see your point that current don't have to stay on the surface of the ideal conductor as oppose to the charge.
 
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