What is the maximum volume of a cone?

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The discussion revolves around finding the maximum volume of a cone, utilizing the formula for the volume of a cone and applying calculus to identify critical points for maxima. Participants are exploring the relationship between the dimensions of the cone and its volume, particularly in the context of a right triangle formed by the cone's height and radius.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to derive the volume of the cone using calculus, specifically through the first derivative test to find critical points. There are discussions about the relationship between the hypotenuse and the dimensions of the cone, with some questioning the setup of the problem and the assumptions made regarding the variables involved.

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There are multiple attempts to derive the maximum volume, with some participants providing similar calculations but arriving at different expressions for the volume. This indicates an ongoing exploration of the problem, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct formulation or interpretation of the results.

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Some participants note potential errors in the calculations presented, particularly in the final expressions for volume, suggesting that further clarification or correction may be needed. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to verify assumptions and calculations without arriving at a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


First derivative=maxima/minima/vertical tangent/rising/falling
Volume of a cone: ##~\displaystyle V=\frac{\pi}{3}r^2h##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$L=a^2+b^2~\rightarrow b^2=L-a^2$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}a(L-a^2)$$
$$V'=\frac{\pi}{3}(L-3a^2),~V'=0:~a=\sqrt\frac{L}{3}$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}\left[ \sqrt\frac{L}{3}\left( L-\frac{L}{3} \right) \right]$$
The answer should be:
$$V=\frac{2\pi L^3}{9\sqrt{3}}$$
 

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Karol said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


First derivative=maxima/minima/vertical tangent/rising/falling
Volume of a cone: ##~\displaystyle V=\frac{\pi}{3}r^2h##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$L=a^2+b^2~\rightarrow b^2=L-a^2$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}a(L-a^2)$$
$$V'=\frac{\pi}{3}(L-3a^2),~V'=0:~a=\sqrt\frac{L}{3}$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}\left[ \sqrt\frac{L}{3}\left( L-\frac{L}{3} \right) \right]$$
The answer should be:
$$V=\frac{2\pi L^3}{9\sqrt{3}}$$
If L is hypotenuse then L^2=a^2+b^2
 
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$$L^2=a^2+b^2~\rightarrow b^2=L^2-a^2$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}a(L^2-a^2)$$
$$V'=\frac{\pi}{3}(L^2-3a^2),~V'=0:~a=\frac{L}{\sqrt{3}}$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}\left[ \frac{L}{\sqrt{3}} \left( L^2-\frac{L^2}{3} \right) \right]=\frac{2\pi L^3}{9\sqrt{3}}$$
Thank you Kumar
 
Karol said:
$$L^2=a^2+b^2~\rightarrow b^2=L^2-a^2$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}a(L^2-a^2)$$
$$V'=\frac{\pi}{3}(L^2-3a^2),~V'=0:~a=\frac{L}{\sqrt{3}}$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}\left[ \frac{L}{\sqrt{3}} \left( L^2-\frac{L^2}{3} \right) \right]=\frac{2\pi L^3}{27\sqrt{3}}$$
Almost
Karol said:
$$L^2=a^2+b^2~\rightarrow b^2=L^2-a^2$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}a(L^2-a^2)$$
$$V'=\frac{\pi}{3}(L^2-3a^2),~V'=0:~a=\frac{L}{\sqrt{3}}$$
$$V=\frac{\pi}{3}\left[ \frac{L}{\sqrt{3}} \left( L^2-\frac{L^2}{3} \right) \right]=\frac{2\pi L^3}{27\sqrt{3}}$$
Almost
You have done a mistake in last line
 

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