What is the Meaning of "Empty Space"?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning of the term "empty space" in various contexts, including theoretical physics, quantum mechanics, and general relativity. Participants seek clarification on how "empty space" is defined and its implications in different physical theories.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that "empty" space is a theoretical construct that does not exist in the universe, as it is filled with virtual particles due to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.
  • Others define "empty space" as a region devoid of matter that does not affect the outcome of a scenario.
  • A participant notes that in quantum physics, "empty space" refers to a vacuum state of lowest energy, which is non-zero and characterized by virtual particles.
  • One contribution quotes Stephen Hawking, emphasizing that "empty space isn't empty."
  • Another participant discusses "empty space" in the context of general relativity, explaining that it can refer to regions without matter but possibly containing fields, and distinguishes between "vacuum" and "electrovacuum" regions.
  • Examples are provided of regions that would not be classified as "empty space," such as balls of perfect fluid used in stellar models.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the definition and implications of "empty space," indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the definitions provided, as they depend on specific contexts and interpretations within different physical theories. The discussion highlights the complexity and nuances involved in defining "empty space."

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Once again, hello to all !:smile: ,

I'm back with another quick question ...

Can you explain or redirect me to an explanation of what the term ' empty space ' means.

It’ all over in the threads I read, but it’s not quite clear to me as to what it pertains to …


Thank you,

VE
 
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"Empty" space is a theoretical construct that does not exist in our Universe. Even in the absence of matter and radiation, "empty" space is a teeming sea of virtual particles, coming into existence and annihilating in accordance with the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. You might think that for "something" to exist, there must be a "nothing" with which to contrast it, but that is not the case.
 
In general, "empty space" is a term used when the space baing refferenced is devoid of anything that would effect the outcum of the scenario in question.
 
ValenceE said:
Once again, hello to all !:smile: ,

I'm back with another quick question ...

Can you explain or redirect me to an explanation of what the term ' empty space ' means.

It’ all over in the threads I read, but it’s not quite clear to me as to what it pertains to …


Thank you,

VE
In quantum physics (or quantum field theory), 'empty space' means actually 'vacuum' and means the state of lowest energy (which is non-zero). So, empty space means in fact the sea (or soup) of virtual particles poppping in and out of existence.
 
To quote Steven Hawking: "Empty space isn't empty"
 
"Empty space" in the context of gtr?

ValenceE said:
Can you explain or redirect me to an explanation of what the term ' empty space ' means.

Since you are posting in the relativity forum, I will guess that you have encountered this phrase in the context of spacetime models, probably solutions of the Einstein field equation. If so, "empty space" refers to some region which contains no matter, but possibly contains some field such as an electromagnetic field (which will not interfere with uncharged test particles, except indirectly via the gravitational effects of the electromagnetic field energy). A "vacuum" region almost always refers to a region which contains no matter and no non-gravitational fields. Some authors use "empty space" as a synonym for "vacuum". An "electrovacuum" region contains only a gravitational and an electromagnetic field.

Examples of regions in a spacetime model which would NOT be called "empty space" under any circumstances include "balls of perfect fluid". Such fluid balls are often used to construct simple models of isolated stars by "matching across the surface" (where the pressure of the fluid falls to zero) to an "exterior vacuum region". Similarly, collapsing balls of pressureless perfect fluid, or collapsing "dust balls" for short, are often used to construct simple models of gravitational collapse by matching across some (topologically) spherical surface (the pressure is everywhere zero in the dust, so we have a lot of freedom here) to an exterior vacuum region.

In the context of stellar models or collapse models, you might see the terms "interior solution" (perfect fluid) and "exterior solution" (vacuum, or sometimes, imprecisely, "empty space"). If so, don't confuse these with discussion of the "interior region" versus "exterior region" of a black hole model; these would generally both be regions of "empty space"; their common boundary is the event horizon of the black hole.

Chris Hillman
 

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