What is the Minimum Width of a Structural Steel Bar with Applied Axial Forces?

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The discussion centers on determining the minimum width of a structural steel bar subjected to multiple axial forces while adhering to specified tensile stress and deformation limits. The user initially calculated a width of 26mm but was informed that the correct minimum width is 65mm, which ensures that no section of the bar exceeds the maximum allowable tensile stress of 135MPa. The analysis revealed that the maximum tensile force applied significantly influences the required width, as it dictates the stress distribution across the bar. Clarification was provided that the 65mm width is the minimum necessary to prevent overstressing, despite varying calculations for different force applications. Accurate understanding of stress distribution is crucial for structural integrity in design.
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There are 4 axial forces that are applied to 25mm thick structural steel bar with 40mm diameter . If the maximum allowable tensile stress in the bar is 135MPa and the maximum allowable deformation (extension or contraction) of bar is 1.25mm , determine the minimum width , w of the bar , E = 200GPa

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i have divided the bar into 3 sections , namely AB , BC and also CD. For part AB, the force acting on it 90kN tensile force , for BC , the force acting on it is 50kN compressive force , for CD, the force acting is 220kN tensile force. )We know that δ(defomation ) = PL / AE , where P - force , L = length of bar , A = area

so i let 1.25x10^-3 = ((90x10^3)(250x10^-3) - (50x10^3)(500x10^-3) + (220x10^3)(750x10^-3) / (25x10^-3 x w x 200x10^9) , so w = 26mm ,

but the ans given is w = 65 mm , which part of my working is wrong ?
 

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foo9008 said:

Homework Statement


There are 4 axial forces that are applied to 25mm thick structural steel bar with 40mm diameter . If the maximum allowable tensile stress in the bar is 135MPa and the maximum allowable deformation (extension or contraction) of bar is 1.25mm , determine the minimum width , w of the bar , E = 200GPa

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i have divided the bar into 3 sections , namely AB , BC and also CD. For part AB, the force acting on it 90kN tensile force , for BC , the force acting on it is 50kN compressive force , for CD, the force acting is 220kN tensile force. )We know that δ(defomation ) = PL / AE , where P - force , L = length of bar , A = area

so i let 1.25x10^-3 = ((90x10^3)(250x10^-3) - (50x10^3)(500x10^-3) + (220x10^3)(750x10^-3) / (25x10^-3 x w x 200x10^9) , so w = 26mm ,

but the ans given is w = 65 mm , which part of my working is wrong ?
Deformation analysis looks good, but did you check this wording from the problem statement "... the maximum allowable tensile stress in the bar is 135MPa..."?
 
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PhanthomJay said:
Deformation analysis looks good, but did you check this wording from the problem statement "... the maximum allowable tensile stress in the bar is 135MPa..."?
So how should I proceed?
 
ok , when using force = 220kPa , i found that w = 65.2mm, but when i use P = 50kN , w = 14.8mm , when using P = 90kPa , my t = 24mm , why is it so ?

if so , then it's maximum t , right ?
 
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yes, since the bar is uniform in dimensions, the higher number controls for stress.
 
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yes, since the bar is uniform in dimensions, the higher number controls for stress.
Just to double check, the 65.2mm is the maximum t, not minimum t, am I right?
 
foo9008 said:
Just to double check, the 65.2mm is the maximum t, not minimum t, am I right?
I may not have responded clearly. The 65 mm thickness is the minimum t required such that no point in the bar is stressed beyond the max allowed stress of 135 MPa. The stress in the left and mid sections will be less, as the right section with the higher load, and hence higher stress, controls the design.
 
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