What is the molar volume of gas at S.T.P. and S.A.T.P.?

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The discussion revolves around the molar volume of gas at standard temperature and pressure (S.T.P.) and standard ambient temperature and pressure (S.A.T.P.). Participants explore the definitions and conditions associated with these standards, as well as discrepancies in values found across different sources.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a molar volume of 24.414L for 1 atm pressure at S.T.P. but highlights a discrepancy with IUPAC's recommendation of 100kPa as standard pressure.
  • Another participant suggests using the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) to calculate the molar volume, providing a calculation for 1 mole at 100kPa and 273.15K, resulting in approximately 22.7 liters.
  • A participant expresses familiarity with the ideal gas equation but seeks clarification on the exact conditions for S.T.P. and S.A.T.P.
  • One participant argues that the term "exact" is meaningless in this context, stating that standards are conventional and arbitrary, and suggests using the standard relevant to one's field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact definitions of S.T.P. and S.A.T.P., with multiple competing views regarding the standards and their applications remaining evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of S.T.P. and S.A.T.P., as well as the varying standards applied in different fields, which may lead to confusion about the appropriate conditions to use.

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What is the molar volume of gas at S.T.P. (standard temperature and pressure) and S.A.T.P.(standard ambient temperature and pressure)? I googled the one for S.T.P. and found it to be 24.414L for 1 atm standard pressure, but whereas in Wikipedia it is mentioned that IUPAC recommended the standard pressure to be 100kPa at S.T.P., most websites refer to 1 atm as the standard pressure. :confused:The one for S.A.T.P. is more elusive and different websites give different conditions and molar gas volumes. Any help, or reference to threads, websites, etc, is welcome.
 
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Why not solve PV=nRT for V, using the value of 8.3144621(75) for R and your chosen temperature and pressure.

For 1 mole at a pressure of 100kPa and a temperature of 273.15 Kelvins I get...

V = nRT/P = 1 * 8.314462175 * 273.15 / 100,000 = .02271095 cubic meters = 22.7 liters.

Mind you, I'm just an idiot using Google and what I learned in chemistry class a few decades ago.
 
Thanks, but I know how to calculate from the ideal gas equation. What I don't know is what are the exact conditions for S.T.P. and S.A.T.P.? Anyone any ideas?
 
The attribute "exact" is meaningless here. These are standards, so they are conventional, arbitrary. If there are several standards, as you found out, none is more (or less) exact than another.
Just use the one that applies in your field of activity.
 

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