What is the moment of inertia of an inclined disk?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia of an inclined disk, with mass m and radius R, at an angle θ to the vertical. The initial approach involved integrating the mass density of the disk, but confusion arose regarding the variable nature of θ and the distance from the axis. A clearer method was suggested by keeping the disk horizontal and defining the distance from the axis in terms of the angles involved. After deriving the distance expression, the final moment of inertia was calculated as I = (mR^2/2)(1 - cos²β/2), with confirmation that the parallel axis theorem can be applied for parallel axes. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly defining variables and using appropriate integration techniques.
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Homework Statement


I am trying to find the moment of inertia of a disc (let the mass be m and radius R) inclined at an angle θ to the vertical axis.
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I started by taking a small element of area dA. (see attachment 2)
The mass of this small element is dA*Mass density of disc.
dA=xd\phidx and mass density=m/(\piR^2)
Now, moment of inertia is defined as
I=∫dmr^2 (Here r=xsinθ)
I=\int_{0}^{2\pi} \int_{0}^{R} \frac{m}{\pi R^2}xd \phi dx(x\sinθ)
Solving this, i get
I=\frac{4}{3}mRsinθ which i think is completely wrong.
 

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Hi Pranav,

It is easier to imagine the problem if you keep that disk horizontal, in the xy plane and the axis in the yz plane is inclined to it with angle β. The distance d of a point P of the disk from the axis is r sin(θ) where θ is the angle the axis and the position vector r enclose: It is not the same as β.

ehild
 

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ehild said:
Hi Pranav,

It is easier to imagine the problem if you keep that disk horizontal, in the xy plane and the axis in the yz plane is inclined to it with angle β. The distance d of a point P of the disk from the axis is r sin(θ) where θ is the angle the axis and the position vector r enclose: It is not the same as β.

ehild

Yes, its now easier to understand the problem.
In my method, i did not realize that θ too varies. But now how am i going to form the integral? :confused:
 
At given β, d depends both on φ and r. Find the expression first.

ehild
 
ehild said:
At given β, d depends both on φ and r. Find the expression first.

ehild

I have tried it for more than half hour but still have no clue, i am unable to express d in terms of φ and r.
 
"d" is the distance of a point from the axis. Can you find the distance of a point from a straight line?

A point on the axis can be written as the vector b=bt where t is the unit vector along the axis. t=cosβj+sinβk.

A point P of the disk is represented by the vector r=rcosφi+rsinφj.

The distance between a point of the axis and P is equal to the magnitude of the difference r-b, and the distance of P from the axis is the shortest distance.
Find the minimum of (r-b)2.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Can you find the distance of a point from a straight line?
Yes.

ehild said:
The distance between a point of the axis and P is equal to the magnitude of the difference r-b, and the distance of P from the axis is the shortest distance.
Find the minimum of (r-b)2.

ehild
I get r2(1-cos2φcos2β) as the minimum value of (r-b)2. Is this correct?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Yes.


I get r2(1-cos2φcos2β) as the minimum value of (r-b)2. Is this correct?

I got the same. You can integrate now for the disk :smile:

ehild
 
ehild said:
I got the same. You can integrate now for the disk :smile:

ehild

Thanks for the help ehild! :smile:
Here's my attempt:
dI=\frac{m}{\pi R^2}r(d\varphi)(dr)\cdot r^2(1-\cos^2\varphi \cos^2\beta)
Integrating the above expression under the appropriate limits, i get
I=\frac{mR^2}{2}\left(1-\frac{cos^2\beta}{2}\right)
Is this correct?
Is it valid to use the parallel axis theorem here if i want the MI about an axis parallel to the given axis in the question?
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
I=\frac{mR^2}{2}\left(1-\frac{cos^2\beta}{2}\right)
Looks right.
Is it valid to use the parallel axis theorem here if i want the MI about an axis parallel to the given axis in the question?
Sure. Why not?
 
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Checking my calculation again, I got d2=r2(1-cos2β sin2φ) with φ the angle with respect to the x axis, as shown in my post #2. But that does not influence the final result.

The parallel axis theorem is valid for any shape and any parallel axes.

ehild
 
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