What is the morpology of an electron?

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The discussion centers on the nature of electrons and photons, questioning whether they possess a diameter or shape. It argues that the concept of "shape" is not applicable to electrons since they cannot be observed directly, even with advanced tools like electron microscopes. The conversation explores the idea that while electrons may not have a conventional shape, photons can be mathematically defined in terms of boundaries and properties. There is a debate about how light behaves near black holes and whether its properties change under such conditions. The notion that a photon could have a defined shape and size is also presented, challenging the idea that these particles exist without physical characteristics. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities of defining shape and size in the context of quantum physics and relativity.
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Does an electron have a diameter? Does it have a shape? If so, do either one change as light is bent by gravity? What happens to the shape/diameter in, or near, a black hole? If there are any changes, do they affect the properties (laws) of the photon? Can one part of a photon be out of phase with another part of the same photon in (any) same dimension over one instant of time (s)?
 
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What do YOU mean by shape?

In order for something to have a "shape" in any normal sense, you would have to be able to see it. You can't SEE an eletron, even with an electron microscope!

The very concept of "shape" does not apply to an electron.
 
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What do YOU mean by shape?

In order for something to have a "shape" in any normal sense, you would have to be able to see it. You can't SEE an eletron, even with an electron microscope!

The very concept of "shape" does not apply to an electron.

By shape, I mean a set defined limits the parameter(s) of boundries of the photon cloud. The fact that a photon can not be seen does not mean that it cannot be mathematically expressed. A photon, for example, does not escape from a black hole. What would it's physics be, if it were a 'rubber ball', change it's shape? You could mathematically define the shape of a rubber ball, never having seen one. You could also mathematically describe all of the changes that would occur to a ball it were struck.

No, a photon DOES have a shape and a size; it is not transfinite, (unless you propose that the universe is itself one photon).
 

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