What Is the Optimal Angle for Maximum Range in Projectile Motion on a Slope?

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The discussion centers on determining the optimal angle for throwing a rock from a slope to achieve maximum range. Participants explore the use of direction cosines and transformations to simplify the problem, questioning whether a three-dimensional approach is necessary for a two-dimensional scenario. There is a debate about the effectiveness of the 45° angle, with clarification that it is not universally optimal in this context. The complexity of the problem is acknowledged, and some participants express a willingness to derive the solution later. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for careful consideration of the physics involved in projectile motion on a slope.
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A boy stands at the peak of a hill which slopes downward uniformly at angle \phi. At what angle \theta from the horizontal should he throw a rock so that is has the greatest range.

Ok, so this is a rotation of the normal x_{1} - x_{2} plane right? So we can use the direction cosines \lambda_{ij} to make this problem easier.

So x'_{1} = x_{1} \cos \phi + x_{2} \cos \left(\frac{\pi}{2} + \phi \right) and x'_{2} = \cos \theta + \cos \phi.

Are these the right transformations? Is this the right way to set up the problem? Then just apply the equations of projectile motion? This problem seems pretty difficult if I didn't have these tools available. But basically I am using the following:

A = \begin{bmatrix} \lambda_{11} & \lambda_{12} & \lambda_{13} \\ \lambda_{21} & \lambda_{22} & \lambda_{23} \\ \lambda_{31} & \lambda_{32} & \lambda_{33} \end{bmatrix}
 
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You don't really need to do that. The primary reason for transforming frames is to make the problem easier to solve. This transformation makes the problem harder to solve, not easier. And why a three-dimensional transform? This is a 2D problem.
 
At the risk of sounding like an uneducated fool:

Isn't 45° always the most effective angle to use?
 
sephirothrr said:
Isn't 45° always the most effective angle to use?

No. At this point in time it would not be appropriate to derive the answer. Perhaps the original poster will. If he/she doesn't, I'll be glad to do so after a few days. For now, this is a homework thread.
 
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