What Is the Process to Solve for d in the Equation (d)(13) mod (2436) = 1?

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To solve for d in the equation (d)(13) mod (2436) = 1, the modular inverse of 13 modulo 2436 must be calculated. The Euclidean algorithm is used to find that 13 and 2436 are coprime, allowing for the existence of an inverse. Through the algorithm, it is determined that the modular inverse is 937. Therefore, the value of d is 937, satisfying the original equation. Understanding the process of finding modular inverses is crucial for solving similar problems.
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I need to figure out the value for d in this equation, but because the numbers are large, I don't know how.

(d)(13) mod (2436) = 1.

d times 13 mod 2436 should be equal to 1.

Is there a process I can use to find out the value of d.
 
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hi maxfails! smile:

hint: divide 2436 by 13 :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi maxfails! smile:

hint: divide 2436 by 13 :wink:
2436 isn't a multiple of 13. Maybe I'm missing the point.
 
That "2435 isn't a multiple of 13" is the point! If it were, there would be no answer to this problem. "Modulus" problems are all about remainders. You are trying to find a number, n, such that some multiple of 2436, divided by 13n, has remainder 1, that is, such that 13n= 1+ 2436k for some integer k. That is the same as 13n- 2436k= 1.

Euclidean division algorithm:

13 divides into 2436 187 times with remainder 5- that is, 2436- (187)(13)= 5.

5 divides into 13 twice with remainder 3- that is, 13- (2)(5)= 3.

3 divides into 5 once with remainder 2- that is 5- 1(3)= 2.

2 divides into 3 once with remainder 1- that is, 3- 1(2)= 1.

Replace that "2" by 5- 1(3) from the previous equation: 3- 1(5- 1(3))= 2(3)- 5= 1. Replace the "3" in that with 13- 2(5): 2(13- 2(5))- 5= 2(13)- 5(5)= 1.
Replace the "5" in that by 2436- 187(13): 2(13)- 5(2436- 187(13))= 937(13)- 5(2436)= 1.

Now that I used 2436 rather than the mistaken 2435, I get the same result as Mensenator.
 
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maxfails said:
I need to figure out the value for d in this equation, but because the numbers are large, I don't know how.

(d)(13) mod (2436) = 1.

d times 13 mod 2436 should be equal to 1.

Is there a process I can use to find out the value of d.

Yes, find the modular imverse of 13 & 2436.

the answer is then invert(13,2436) * 1 % 2436.

Should be 937.
 
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