What is the ratio of hydrogen to helium in the Sun?

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The discussion centers on determining the ratio of hydrogen to helium in the Sun, specifically whether to calculate based on solar pp chain reactions or using mass fractions. The mass fractions of hydrogen (X=0.71) and helium (Y=0.26) suggest a ratio of approximately 2.7 hydrogen atoms for each helium atom when adjusted for atomic mass. However, the Sun's composition has evolved over 4.5 billion years, resulting in a helium content exceeding 60% in its core. Accurate calculations require integrating the entire volume of the Sun, indicating that the average helium content is higher than the initial 26% by weight. Understanding these ratios is crucial for astrophysical models of stellar evolution.
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Hi everyone,
There is problem that asks how many hydrogen atoms are there in sun for each helium atom.
I don't know which solution is correct:
1) to count all the hydrogens and heliums participating in one solar pp chain,
or,
2) as X=0.71 and Y=0.26, there is (0.71/0.26)*2 H for each He.
Thanks for help.
 
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shirin said:
Hi everyone,
There is problem that asks how many hydrogen atoms are there in sun for each helium atom.
I don't know which solution is correct:
1) to count all the hydrogens and heliums participating in one solar pp chain,
or,
2) as X=0.71 and Y=0.26, there is (0.71/0.26)*2 H for each He.
Thanks for help.

The figures X & Y are mass fractions. In terms of numbers of atoms of each we need to divide by their relative masses, roughly 1:4, giving us 0.71 and 0.052, then divide those by the sum I.e. 0.71/0.762 & 0.052/0.762 which gives their atomic proportions. Divide the hydrogen figure by the helium figure and you have how many hydrogens for every helium.
 
thank you.
 
The 26% He by weight is more representative of the composition of the sun at the time of formation. The sun has been burning H to He for 4.5 billion years, so according to the standard solar model, the interior of the sun is now over 60% He. To calculate the atomic ratio, you would need to integrate over the whole volume - I don't know the answer, but I'm sure it is more than 26% He by weight when averaged over the whole sun. Here are a couple of references with Figure 2 in the first reference showing the mass fraction as a function of radius, and Table 1 in the second reference giving the He mass fraction in the core at >60%.

http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~france/PAPERS/solmodel.pdf

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0204331
 
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