What is the relationship between electric charge and electrons?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between electric charge and electrons, focusing on the definitions and distinctions between negative electric charges and electrons. Participants explore concepts related to atomic structure, charge types, and historical context in electricity.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that electrons are the smallest unit of negative electric charge.
  • Others explain that negative charge generally refers to electrons, but also includes other particles with negative charge, such as muons and antiprotons.
  • One participant notes that positive charges indicate a lack of electrons, emphasizing the tendency of nature to maintain electrical neutrality.
  • There is mention of the historical decision to define current direction opposite to electron flow, which some find confusing.
  • Participants highlight that while electrons are the primary carriers of negative charge in electricity, other unstable particles also possess negative charge.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between negative electric charges and electrons, with some asserting they are the same while others argue for a broader definition of negative charge. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nuances of these definitions.

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Participants reference various particles and their stability, indicating that the discussion may depend on specific definitions and contexts within physics.

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I'm currently doing electricity in my high school physics. What is the difference between 'negative electric charges' and 'electrons'?:confused:
 
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I suppose they are the same thing. Electrons are the smallest unit of (negative) electric charge.
 
The material things around us are made of atoms. Atoms have a positively charged nucleus (the proton by convention has a positive charge), and the nucleus is surrounded by negatively charged electrons. Electrons are the mobile charges.

When we talk about negative charge, this really refers to electrons as Repetit mentioned. When one refers to a positive charges, in reality it means there is a lack of electrons. Natures tries to remain electrically neutral.

One can encounter positive charges, e.g. a free proton or ion, which one might encounter in atomic or nuclear physics, or in chemistry problems.

There are also positively charged electrons (positrons), but they occur under special conditions and do not survive very long.

However, when it comes to electricity/electronics, the negative charges are the electrons, and currents almost always refer to the movement of electrons. The current is always oppositve the motion of the electrons, because someone in the past decided that the direction of the current should be in the direction of 'positive' charges. I found that terribly confusing when I first learned about electricity.
 
"Negative electric charges" is a rather more general category than "electrons." A particle with negative electric charge is anything that is electrically repelled by an electron. This includes other electrons, muons, taus, antiprotons, cascade minuses, pi minuses, and a whole host of others sorts of particles. However, the only stable particles with negative charge are electrons and antiprotons. All the others will decay into electrons or antiprotons plus uncharged particles.
 
Astronuc said:
The current is always oppositve the motion of the electrons, because someone in the past decided that the direction of the current should be in the direction of 'positive' charges. I found that terribly confusing when I first learned about electricity.

If I remember my history correctly, I think you can thank Ben Franklin for that...
 

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