What is the relationship between electric potential and work done?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between electric potential and work done, specifically how to derive the definition of electric potential from its mathematical expression. Participants explore the concepts of work done in moving a charge in an electric field and the corresponding equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in deriving the definition of electric potential from the equation EP = k*(Q/R) and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant suggests using the integral of force to calculate work done, indicating that work done can be expressed as the integral from infinity to a point in the electric field.
  • A participant clarifies that "v" refers to voltage and relates it to the equation v = wd/q, but expresses confusion regarding the integral presented.
  • Further clarification is provided about the integral representing the work done to move a charge from infinity to a distance R in the electric field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the derivation process, and there is ongoing confusion regarding the integral and its implications. Multiple viewpoints and questions remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made in the derivation process and the definitions of terms like voltage and work done. The mathematical steps involved in the integral are not fully resolved.

ojsimon
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Hi

I am sure this is very basic but i am struggling to derive or work this out, and i have looked, on the internet and textbooks and can't find this.

The electric potential at a point is defined as the work done per unit charge to move a small test charge from infinity to that point.

And an equation for it is : EP = k*(Q/R)

I want to get back to the definition from this equation, but i can't get very far:

here is what i have done: WD= work done

Q/R = (wd/v)/R
= wd/vR


But i can't go much further without it just going back to the original form... Can anyone help me?

Thanks
 
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hi ojsimon! :smile:

(what's v ? :confused:)

work done = ∫ force d(distance) = ∫R kQ/r2 dr :wink:

(and d(work done)/dr = force)
 
sorry v was meant to be voltage and came from the equation v=wd/q

Thanks although i don't quite understand your integral?

Thanks
 
ojsimon said:
Thanks although i don't quite understand your integral?

The integral is the force integrated from infinity to the distance R, since the PE is the work done to get the charge from infinity to R.
 

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