What is the role of drag moment in the net momentum formula for quadrotors?

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The discussion focuses on the role of drag moment in the net momentum formula for quadrotors, specifically examining the formula for moment that includes both uplift force and drag moment from propellers. Participants express confusion about the inclusion of the drag moment (M_i) in the formula and its implications for calculating moments around different reference points. There is a request for clarification on the origin of M_i and its relationship to the overall aerodynamic forces acting on the propeller blades. The conversation emphasizes the need to understand the underlying theory of the drag moment in relation to quadrotors. Ultimately, the drag moment is acknowledged as an external moment that contributes to the total aerodynamic forces on the blades.
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While watching lecture at Coursera, i tumbled over this fourmula

Moment
\mathbf{M}=\sum_{i=1}^{4}(\mathbf{F}_i\times \mathbf{r}_i+\mathbf{M}_i)
where F is uplift force from a propeller, and M is drag moment for a propeller.

But why they add drag moment(torque) like that? Maybe it will differ for central point.

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harmyder said:
Maybe it will differ for central point.
Try it out by computing the moments of the blade drag forces around different reference points.
 
A.T. said:
Try it out by computing the moments of the blade drag forces around different reference points.
Thanks, it is true for two points on the picture, but can you name the rule? I want to read it whole to understand it better. Thank you.
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Could somebody write what are these M_i? Because i still don't understand how it works, i think every moment must be calculated about some point.

I have found this formula
<br /> \begin{equation}<br /> \dot{\mathbf{H}}_O = \sum(\mathbf{r}_i \times m_i\dot{\mathbf{v}}_i) = \sum(\mathbf{r}_i \times \mathbf{F}_i + \mathbf{M}_i)<br /> \end{equation}
but i don't understand from where \mathbf{M}_i came, because i think that m_i\dot{\mathbf{v}}_i = \mathbf{F}_i
 
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harmyder said:
i don't understand from where \mathbf{M}_i came,
Didn't you explain it yourself:
harmyder said:
and M is drag moment for a propeller.
It's the total moment of all aerodynamic forces on the blades, which are in the plane of the propeller disc.
 
A.T. said:
Didn't you explain it yourself:
Well, yes, but here i want to know from where M came in this general formula (1). It is unrelated for quadrotor, just to understand underlying theory.
 
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harmyder said:
Well, yes, but here i want to know from where M came in this general formula (1). It is unrelated for quadrotor, just to understand underlying theory.
In general it's just some external moment.
 
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