What is the temperature in a vacum?

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of explaining the concept of temperature in a vacuum to primary school students. Participants debate the notion that true vacuum has no temperature, emphasizing that even in space, the temperature is around 2.7 degrees Kelvin due to photon content. Suggestions include simplifying the explanation by defining "temperature" and asserting that children can grasp complex ideas when presented clearly. Some express frustration with the educational system, noting that students often lack foundational understanding in physics. The conversation highlights the importance of teaching basic concepts effectively to foster comprehension in young learners.
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if i asked u guyz

what is the temperature in a vacum? (measured not using instrument)
you will answre there's none

but how can you explain it to primary student ^^ o:)
 
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first tell that the temp. is zero, then tell them not to ask questions. :-p :-p
 
How do you explain to the kids that there is no vacuum? Even in the farthest reaches of intergalactic space, it's 2.7 degrees Kelvin (that's without the wind-chill factor) just from the photon content.
 
you tell them:

Try to imagen nothing. you see, there is nothing there. now, you are whatching a space with nothing. so there is a space, whihc is something. so, then it is not nothing. it is space alone. space alone is called: vacuum space.
 
jimmysnyder, kid will say : just use a vacuum cleaner and u got a clean vacuum =p
yomamma, nice try ^^ but bad anwer
guille, you basically tell them nothing.

no but what i was thinking is that in my place, physics is quickly and unfairly assume as a theoritical subject of nudry bald proffesor, yet we know we are not.

and the only reason is that they don't understand the basic, try...
what is heat?
they will give out a tonnes of nonsense.
 
Of course,

but why would you need to explain vacuum space to aprimary student?
 
ArielGenesis said:
kid will say : just use a vacuum cleaner and u got a clean vacuum =p

If I explain to them that there is no such thing as a vacuum and they say "Oh yes there is', then how can I teach them anything at all?
 
yeah, u right. that's the brain teasing part
u know, they are like idiots dummies n they r being spoon feed wit lots of formula without understanding the essence. n my question is actually, how to teach them the BASIC FIRST. like what is heat after all, if they don't understand, then they will make their own meanning of conduction which 99.9% wrong.
 
ArielGenesis said:
they are like idiots dummies

You're a teacher, right?
 
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no I'm a student ^^ (high school)
 
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How do you explain to high school students that there is no vacuum? Even in the farthest reaches of intergalactic space, the temperature is 2.7 degrees Kelvin (that's without the wind-chill factor) just from the photon content.
 
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ArielGenesis said:
no I'm a student ^^ (high school)
*Huge sigh of relief* I was afraid you were trying to teach with that vocabulary/grammar/spelling ability... :biggrin:


"what is the temperature in a vacum? (measured not using instrument)"

"but how can you explain it to primary student"

Simple:
Once you explain the definition of 'temperature', they will accept the answer. Kids are not dumb. They may not have as much infomartion as adults, but once supplied with it, they are quite bright at incorporating it into their understanding.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Huge sigh of relief

Sighed too soon. My kids' teachers are only marginally better at spelling and grammar and are aggressively defensive about it


DaveC426913 said:
Once you explain the definition of 'temperature', they will accept the answer. Kids are not dumb. They may not have as much infomartion as adults, but once supplied with it, they are quite bright at incorporating it into their understanding.

Congratulations, you solved the puzzle.
 
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