What Is the Unit Vector of f(x) at (3,9)?

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The discussion revolves around finding a unit vector that is both parallel and normal to the graph of the function f(x) = x^2 at the point (3, 9). Participants are exploring the definitions and calculations related to unit vectors in the context of calculus and vector analysis.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of unit vectors and the properties of orthogonal vectors. There are questions about the derivation of specific vector forms and the meaning of the ± sign in the context of directionality. Some participants are also questioning the definitions of normal vectors and seeking proofs or justifications for their properties.

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Homework Statement


Find a unit vector (a) parallel to and (b) normal to the graph of f(x) at the given point. Then sketch a graph of the vectors and the functions.

Function:
f(x)=xx
Point:
(3,9)

Homework Equations


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<cos(x),sin(x)> is always a unit vector.

For the normal vector, just find a vector orthogonal to the one you have. Both <-x,y> and <x,-y> are orthogonal to <x,y>, or if you want to cheat, use <0,0,1>.
 
haxtor21 said:

Homework Statement


Find a unit vector (a) parallel to and (b) normal to the graph of f(x) at the given point. Then sketch a graph of the vectors and the functions.

Function:
f(x)=xx
Point:
(3,9)


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



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Your vector, \vec{v}\,, is a unit vector.

\left\|\vec{v}\right\|=\sqrt{\cos^2(\,\arctan(6))+\sin^2(\arctan(6))\,\,}=\sqrt{1}=1

BTW,

\sin(\arctan(6)) =\frac{6}{\sqrt{1+6^2\,}}=\frac{6}{\sqrt{37}}

and

\cos(\arctan(6)) =\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+6^2\,}}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{37}}
 
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transphenomen said:
<cos(x),sin(x)> is always a unit vector.

For the normal vector, just find a vector orthogonal to the one you have. Both <-x,y> and <x,-y> are orthogonal to <x,y>, or if you want to cheat, use <0,0,1>.

Ok, so far I have a) done. How exactly am I supposed to do this? The back of the book says the answer is +-(1/sqrt(37))<6,-1>. Where does the +- come from and how did they get that answer (looks iverse. According to what you said, I would just stick a negative in either component (?) ).
 
haxtor21 said:
Ok, so far I have a) done. How exactly am I supposed to do this? The back of the book says the answer is +-(1/sqrt(37))<6,-1>. Where does the +- come from and how did they get that answer (looks iverse. According to what you said, I would just stick a negative in either component (?) ).

Correct. The +- means that either answer is acceptable, though to be thorough you can have both answers.
 
transphenomen said:
Correct. The +- means that either answer is acceptable, though to be thorough you can have both answers.

So you are saying that I can have (1/sqrt(37))<-1,6> or (1/sqrt(37))<1,-6> for b) even though the book says the answer is (1/sqrt(37))<6,-1>?

So then I would guess the +- reffers to the direction of the vector compared to what it was previously, but it has no relationship with the signs inside the < , > components correct?
 
haxtor21 said:
So you are saying that I can have (1/sqrt(37))<-1,6> or (1/sqrt(37))<1,-6> for b) even though the book says the answer is (1/sqrt(37))<6,-1>?

So then I would guess the +- reffers to the direction of the vector compared to what it was previously, but it has no relationship with the signs inside the < , > components correct?

I'm sorry, I was wrong. The normal vector of <x,y> is <-y,x> or <y,-x>.
 
transphenomen said:
I'm sorry, I was wrong. The normal vector of <x,y> is <-y,x> or <y,-x>.

How do you know that is the normal vector? is there a proof sort of thing somewhere?
 

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