What is the Variance of Tossed Coins?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the variance of the square of the number of heads obtained when three fair coins are tossed, denoted as Y2. Participants are exploring the properties of the random variable Y and its distribution.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the definition of Y2 and its implications for variance calculations. Some are exploring the probability distribution of Y and how it relates to Y2. Others are questioning the application of variance formulas and the assumptions behind them.

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There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, including the use of probability distributions and the basic definition of variance. Some participants have provided suggestions for approaches, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or outcome.

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Let Y denote the number of heads obtained when three fair coins are tossed.The
variance of Y2 is

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MY problem is understanding what Y2 is. i have tried to calculate VAR(Y*Y) but my answer is wrong
 
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What is the probability distribution of Y itself? You can use this distribution to get the distribution of Z = Y^2. Then you can compute the variance of Z. Alternatively: can you see how to determine Var (Y^2) from the moments of Y?

RGV
 


i tried that...but
var(x*y)= [E(x)]2var(Y)+[E(y)]2var(x)+var(x)var(y)...
putting x=y...E[y]=3*.5...var[y]=3*.5*.5 ( i have taken y be be a binomial variate ).
thr answer i get is wrong
 


Let Y denote the number of heads obtained when three fair coins are tossed.

The probabiity that there are 0 heads is 1/8 so the probability Y^2= 0 is 1/8.

The probability that there is 1 head is 3/8 so the probability Y^2= 1 is 3/8.

The probability that there are 2 heads is 3/8 so the probability Y^2= 4 is 3/8.

The probability that there are 3 heads is 1/8 so the probability Y^2= 9 is 1/8.

Now can you find the mean value, \mu, of Y^2?

Can you find the expected value of \sum (Y^2- \mu)^2, the variance?
 


anirudh dutta said:
i tried that...but
var(x*y)= [E(x)]2var(Y)+[E(y)]2var(x)+var(x)var(y)...
putting x=y...E[y]=3*.5...var[y]=3*.5*.5 ( i have taken y be be a binomial variate ).
thr answer i get is wrong

You say "I tried that". Which suggestion does "that" refer to? (I gave you two suggestions.) HallsohIvy has expanded on my first suggestion, so let me expand on my second one. We know that for any random variable Z we have Var(Z) = E(Z^2) - (EZ)^2. Apply this to Z = Y^2.

The equation Var(X*Y) = Var(X)*(EY)^2 + Var(Y)*(EX)^2 + Var(X)*Var(Y) is true if X and Y are independent (or, at least, uncorrelated); it does not apply to the case X = Y with your Y.

RGV
 


Personally, I think using the basic definition of variance, \sum P(Y^2)(Y^2- \mu)^2, is simpler than using that formula.
 
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