What is the velocity of the wedge after collision?

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A ball of mass m collides perpendicularly with a stationary wedge of mass M on a smooth horizontal plane, and the coefficient of restitution is e. The velocity of the wedge after the collision can be determined using momentum conservation along the x-direction, as external forces like gravity and normal force do not affect this axis. The relevant equations involve the initial momentum of the ball and the final velocities of both the ball and the wedge, incorporating the coefficient of restitution. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying the restitution equation and ensuring that velocities are assigned appropriate directions. Ultimately, the correct approach leads to the determination of the wedge's velocity post-collision.
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1. In the figure shown , a ball of mass m collides perpendicularly on a smooth stationary wedge of mass M , kept on a smooth horizontal plane. If the coefficient of restitution is e , then determine the velocity of the wedge after collision.
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Given
mass of ball = m
mass of wedge = M
coefficient of restitution = e
velocity of wedge after collision = ?
answer to problem =
(1+e)mv sinθ / M+m sin^2 θ
2.
mv = mv1 + Mv2
v1 = velocity of m after collision
v2 = velocity of M after collision
e = relative velocity after collision / relative velocity before collision


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So I tried conservation of momentum along the common normal , ie at the line of impact but since the wedge can only move in x direction I am stumped and cannot get an answer after solving. Tried center of mass approach and still arriving at weird solution. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks.[/B]
 
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When can we conserve momentum?
 
momentum is always conserved that i know of.
 
stealthezio said:
momentum is always conserved that i know of.

Nope, look up Netwon's second law, momentum is conserved only in the absence of external forces. Now in which direction are there no external forces?
 
perpendicular to the line of impact?
or along the slide of wedge
 
stealthezio said:
perpendicular to the line of impact?
or along the slide of wedge

Ok, let me rephrase it - which is the external force on the system (ball + wedge)?
 
Normal force from the ground?
So we conserve momentum in x direction
 
stealthezio said:
Normal force from the ground?

Yes that is one. What are the others?
 
No other external forces.
Rest of the forces are from within the system.
 
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stealthezio said:
No other external forces.
Rest of the forces are from within the system.

What about gravity, is it not external?
 
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yes sorry it is.
 
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stealthezio said:
yes sorry it is.

It's ok. So the Normal force balances the wedge's weight. But the ball's weight is not balanced by anyone, so there is a net force in the direction of the ball's weight. So in which direction is there no external force.?
 
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x direction
 
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stealthezio said:
x direction

Correct, so momentum can be conserved in the x-direction. So conserve momentum along x-axis, use the equation for e and I think you're done.
 
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Ok so I did this
mv sinθ = Mv1 + mv2x ------------1
mv2
x = velocity of m in x direction
e = (v1 + v2) / v
ev = v1 + v2
v2 = ev - v1
Now velocity in x direction for m will be v2 sinθ
v2 sinθ = (ev - v1) sinθ -------2
substituting 2 in equation 1
mv sinθ = Mv1 + m sinθ (ev-v1)
v1 = mv sinθ (1-e) / (M-m sinθ)

This is not the answer , what am I doing wrong?
 
  • #16
Well your e-equation in wrong. The e-equation is valid only for velocities along the line of impact.
 
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Is this correct?
ev = v1 sinθ + v2
then substitute as
v2 sinθ = (ev-v1 sinθ) sinθ
 
  • #18
I think so, does that get you your answer?
 
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Well almost ,
It seems as I have to take
ev = v1 sinθ - v2
As by assigning each velocity a direction . Silly mistake by me.
Thank you for the help.
 
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