What is the Wattage Calculation for a DIY Generator with Multiple Coils?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the wattage calculation for a DIY generator constructed with multiple coils. Participants explore the output wattage based on various configurations of the coils (series vs. parallel) and the implications of internal resistance and load on the generator's performance. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and practical measurements related to generator design and operation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a generator with a coil of 300 turns generating 12V at 2000 RPM and a short-circuit current of 16A, seeking to calculate the output wattage.
  • Another participant suggests that maximum wattage depends on the load and recommends measuring it directly.
  • It is proposed that maximum power can be calculated using the internal resistance of the generator coil and the voltage, referencing the maximum power transfer theorem.
  • Participants discuss the effects of connecting coils in series versus parallel, noting that series connections increase voltage but also internal resistance, while parallel connections decrease resistance but maintain voltage.
  • One participant provides a formula for calculating maximum wattage based on voltage and internal resistance, applying it to both series and parallel configurations.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of calculations based on short-circuit current, with emphasis on the need to consider internal losses and actual load conditions.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the exact output when using multiple coils and the implications of different configurations on performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the output wattage is influenced by the configuration of the coils and the load applied. However, there are multiple competing views on the exact calculations and implications of connecting coils in series versus parallel, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to determine maximum output.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about load conditions, the accuracy of measurements, and the dependence on the specific configurations of the coils. The calculations presented rely on ideal conditions that may not reflect real-world performance.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for hobbyists and engineers interested in DIY generator design, electrical engineering students, and individuals exploring practical applications of electromagnetic theory.

  • #61
Hmm.. By seeing the arrangement, I think your gen has a lot more potential than what is being shown on your meter. It seems the fact is that the way you have placed the coil is wasting a lot of flux from the magnet. I understand it's a simple way. And if you really place more coils around, that would make a serious generator!
To charge a battery, you will need a constant source.
Look up these:
Full wave rectification
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectifier#Rectifier_output_smoothing
Filters .
 
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  • #62
PhysicoRaj said:
Hmm.. By seeing the arrangement, I think your gen has a lot more potential than what is being shown on your meter. It seems the fact is that the way you have placed the coil is wasting a lot of flux from the magnet. I understand it's a simple way. And if you really place more coils around, that would make a serious generator!
To charge a battery, you will need a constant source.
Look up these:
Full wave rectification
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectifier#Rectifier_output_smoothing
Filters .

Yes lot of flux is wasted. In fact I might be using only 20-25% of useful flux as the gap is more than 0.8 inch in between coil and magnet. But that was the simplest and fastest way to get the prototype done. I'll have to construct custom rotor/stator assembly to reduce the gap.
But considering I could reach up to 30V per coil, and can fit 6 coils on that generator, it gives me 180V assuming they all are in phase. Since per coil resistance is 0.6 ohm, I wonder whether parallel or series arrangement or their combination would give me better results in ideal condition [considering load have same resistance as internal resistance]?

I do have High Power rating Diodes, but I'm not there yet to assemble everything together, will do it once I finish with this Genny construction first.
 
  • #63
Since you can always step up the voltage, its better to increase the ampereage of your genny.
Connect them in parallel. You'll get a low internal resistance, high ampereage so more power output.
You can step up/down the voltage to whatever value you need and use a rectifier-filter to power a DC load.
 

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