What is your relgion?

What belief or Religious order do you follow

  • Judaism

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Islamic

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Hinduism

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Atheist

    Votes: 22 44.9%
  • Buddhism

    Votes: 2 4.1%
  • Christianity

    Votes: 12 24.5%
  • Other...please post what you believe in

    Votes: 12 24.5%

  • Total voters
    49

Alexander

Originally posted by BoulderHead
Maybe so, but I still prefer Santa!
I would agree with this too. Santa is much more real than any God.

Indeed, almost everybody have seen Him (Santa) from time to time (mostly in big malls), and some even managed to take digital pictures (and even videos) of Him as a solid proof of His existence.

Not so with God(s) - nobody saw Him and no one was able to take any picture of Him (not to say about video).

So Gods chances on existence are way less than Santa's.
 
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Jedi.
 
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Religion = organised superstition.

I believe in probabilities and possibilities, in nature, in people and human behaviours, and in logic.
 

RSM1000

Originally posted by Adam
Religion = organised superstition.

I believe in probabilities and possibilities, in nature, in people and human behaviours, and in logic.

We share similiarities!
 

Alexander

Organised superstition BUSINESS, I would say.
 

schwarzchildradius

And useful for WAR!
 

Alexander

Yes, and this is quite sad. It is easy to control and alienate beliving masses against each other by pointing at other side as being "infidels" and source of all "evil".

I wonder if Earth would be a safer place with all people just being atheists?
 

DR OF DEATH

i follow meism.

i make my own choices, live my own life, and i am what i am.

why the need for god or religion.
 
Originally posted by Alexander

I wonder if Earth would be a safer place with all people just being atheists?
Probably a little, without all the psychos who use god as an excuse to start wars and such. But it would certainly be a lot more confusing without the rules that religion provides. A democracy would be nearly impossible if everyone was atheist.
 

DR OF DEATH

not really, you dont need a god to have a set of moral rules. i have morals which i abide by but i dont have a god, if we did away with the belief in god and replaced it with a set of agreed moral rules, things could be better.
 

akhenaten

I think that Buddha was onto something, although I am not religious.

I practice Zen meditation on a regular basis.
 

DR OF DEATH

yes buddhism is the one religion that is close to what i follow. you need to concentrate on life in the here and now, not whether god or heaven/hell etc exist, they are not relevent. you and what you do in life is all that is important.
 

schwarzchildradius

Do you think that morality and ethics comes from a consensus of the population, or from a deeper, primal sense of balance (like conservation of energy)?
 

akhenaten

No morality comes from objective absolute standards created by God along with the absolute standards He created of beauty and foulness.

Only joking! ;D I think it it comes from an interplay of the two factors you mentioned - from an aesthetic matter for the individual, which is socialised as a public consensus of universalisable principles eg. human rights, free speech, fairness. Although, I suspect that even the social aspect of it is a product of individual nature.
 

Another God

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I don't think we can blame religion for psychos. Psychos exist and will use any excuse available to them to get what they want.

Religion doesn't create psychos, psychos create religion.
 

DR OF DEATH

i agree that morals / ethics are from both a set of socially agreed rules, and from a deep primordial need for things to be right and balance out. god does not come into it, god and religion were created by men thousands of years ago to try and explain things they had no understanding of, now we can understand and explain almost all of those things and many other things, and so the god/religion excuse is no longer relevent or needed.
 
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I can't say I agree. I see ethics and morals as an extension of other evolutionarily derived survival factors. The group has a greater chance of survival when working within a framework of rules, compared to not.

An interesting demonstration of this exists in Japanese early childhood education system. The Japanese don't tell their children to play nice, don't hit, share, all the things we work so hard to drill into our kids in the west. And an interesting thing happens, first their arises bullies on the playground and in classrooms. They have their way for a while then an interesting social dynamic arises spontaneously out of these children. They start to shun and ignore the bullies. In a surprisingly short amount of time the behavior of the bullies changes to something more conducive to the group, and they are allowed back into society (as they know it). As social creatures, one of the cruelest punishments is to be placed outside all social interaction.

Morality is a very selfish thing, but not stupidly so.

The view of self interests differs with the individual, so different people will have different degrees of ethical behaviour, and different people will have different views on what is best for them (as a set of ethical values).

In larger cities, some feel they can, due to the vast numbers, commit acts and not be held accountable - hence the rise of crime when groups get larger.


With regards to a previously used term - Agnostic. The traditional definition is 'one who believes there is no possibility of proving the existence or lack of existence of god'. It is a philosophical position, not a statement about the ones faith or lack thereof, in god(s). Common usage has changed it to mean someone that doesn't know or, erroneously in my opinion, one who lacks belief, but doesn't believe there is no god(s) (i.e. classic weak atheist position).
 
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Originally posted by Windy
I believe in the Purple Potato God, who will bring ultimate redemption to those who are worthy by landing them in The Land of Unending Varieties Of Potato Gratin.
Yes, but the question is, do the high priests of the Purple Potato God send you a little blessed prayer cloth when a sufficiently large donation is made?

Enquiring minds want to know!
 
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I was recently a christian. But one day I just found out I really don't believe in a personal God anymore.

Nowadays I find Spinoza's veiwpoint interesting, but I still feel a little unsure because he's hard to read. And to get a throughout understanding of him you just gotto (mostly) understand his own works. And his works is NOT easy. I put myself in the 'other' category.
 
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Originally posted by radagast
As social creatures, one of the cruelest punishments is to be placed outside all social interaction.

That I believe too. And a very effective one. I would rather be corrected in a rather hard way which I maybe could learn something from, than be gone. Also from what I hear from psychologists, is that in childcare, as a general rule quantity is better than quality(assuming you aint a horrible human!).
 
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why are you glad some reilgion is good, it teaches morals and gives peopel a reaoson to work and not you now commit sucide becuase their life is meaningless
 
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Originally posted by The Grimmus
why are you glad some reilgion is good, it teaches morals and gives peopel a reaoson to work and not you now commit sucide becuase their life is meaningless
I assume you meant to have a comma between 'glad' and 'some'. It would help if you quote who you're replying to, so we have some context.

Religion is just one possible meaning a person can give to their lives. During the latter Soviet Union, when the vast majority of Russians no longer believed in a god or had a religion, you didn't see rampant immorality and suicide. Non-theistic societies have moral values, just like theistic ones.

The more important question is do you think it's valid to adopt a religion or religious practice, even though you do not believe it, but because it will give you morals, a purpose in life, etcetera?
 
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In response to the second paragraphic area, i do not beilve that many could make such a transition. Religion seems (to me atleast) to be an early means of goverment in a society that needed an enforcer.

But now we do have goverment, we have police and other groups to enforce laws. It is just a matter of transition, and it's been coming for a while.


In response to your 3rd paragraph, i don't feel it's right for me because i feel i already have morales taught by society and laws, and after you have morals accepte dby society it's only if you need to have a purpose in life do you really need to have religion
 
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The original assertion concerned how things occur today/now/in the present. The response to my post seems to retreat to how things evolved historically. Could you clarify what and which you mean.
 

Njorl

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I used to be ethnically Catholic. I didn't believe in the faith, but I became angry if it was denigrated by others.

I recently converted though. I read a long rant about Heathens on some conservative blog, and decided it fit me pretty well. Despite aknowledging that I am a Heathen, I can't seem to find any local Heathen churches. I'm sure there is some sort of religious persecution involved against my fellow heathens.

Njorl
 

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