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The discussion revolves around finding the upper bound M for the expression |(x+2)/x - 5| within the interval (1, 4). An initial attempt yielded 11, but the correct approach involves combining -5 into the fraction, leading to a maximum value of 18. The function (x + 2)/x is decreasing over the interval, with the maximum occurring at x = 1, resulting in an upper bound of 8 when calculated directly. The confusion arises from the different methods of combining terms, where one method magnifies the result significantly. Ultimately, both methods are valid for determining an upper bound, highlighting the complexity of the problem.
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Apparently I cannot read. I figure this is the wrong thread. Please move or kill as needed :(

You need to find M where

\left|\frac{x+2}{x}-5\right| \le M, x \in (1, 4)

To do this, I put 4 for the top x, 1 for the bottom x, to give the greatest quotient possible, plus |-5|, which finally gives 11. The correct answer is to combine 5 into the fraction with x's, and that gives a different answer.

What did I overlook by NOT combining them?

You can view the entry on google books preview here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=10... by first writing the given function"&f=false

Gratitude for enlightenment.
 
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Look at the range of values for (x + 2)/x for x in [1, 4]. This function is defined at all points in this interval, and is decreasing on this interval. The largest value of (x + 2)/x on this interval comes when x = 1.
 
Mark44 said:
Look at the range of values for (x + 2)/x for x in [1, 4]. This function is defined at all points in this interval, and is decreasing on this interval. The largest value of (x + 2)/x on this interval comes when x = 1.

This I understand. If you substitute x with 1, you can get | 3 | + | 5 | = 8 as an upper bound.

The solution as linked actually has M = 18. What makes 18 a better upper bound than 8? Or, is the book wrong?

Thank you
 
It shouldn't be a better upper bound. I don't know how the book got 18, but it is a M that works, so it's technically correct as well.
 
The book got it by merging the -5 into the fraction, giving

\left| \frac{-4x + 2}{x} \right|

Then it maximizes this fraction within the allowed values for x by using 4 for the top x, 1 for the bottom x, and applying absolute value to each term since |-4x + 2| <= |4x| + |2|

This gives you 18. What makes this a good method?

It's really confusing, because by turning 5 into 5x/x, and plugging DIFFERENT values into the top x and bottom x, it greatly magnifies the result, apparently without good reason.
 
Magnifying the result is a good enough reason, since you're looking for any upper bound. But your way is another perfectly fine way to find an upper bound.
 
Makes sense, thank you.
 
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