What Region of Operation Is a BJT In Given These Terminal Voltages?

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The discussion revolves around determining the operational region of a Bipolar Junction Transistor (BJT) based on given terminal voltages. Participants explore the concepts of cutoff, saturation, and active regions, referencing a specific textbook for definitions and graphical representations.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster presents terminal voltage values and expresses uncertainty about which operational region the BJT is in.
  • Some participants inquire about the textbook's definitions of the regions and the accompanying graphs used to illustrate them.
  • One participant suggests that the definitions imply saturation occurs when Vbe > Vce and cutoff when Vbe < 0.6V.
  • Another participant calculates Vce for case (b) as 4.6V, emphasizing the importance of referencing voltages to ground.
  • There is a discussion about the borderline case of Vce = Vbe for case (c), with differing opinions on whether it should be classified as saturation or active.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of the regions but have differing interpretations regarding specific cases, particularly case (c), which remains contested.

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Participants reference a specific textbook that may have limitations in clarity regarding the definitions and graphical representations of the BJT operational regions.

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Homework Statement


The terminal voltages to ground are measured on a particular BJT. In what region does the device operate if these terminal voltages are equal to the following values:

a) Vc = 6V, Vb = 0.6V, Ve = 0V
b) Vc = 6V, Vb = 2V, Ve = 1.4V
c) Vc = 6V, Vb = 6V, Ve = 5.4V
d) Vc = 6V, Vb = 4V, Ve = 3.6V
e) Vc = 3.6V, Vb = 4V, Ve = 3.4V

Homework Equations


No idea which equations apply to this.

The Attempt at a Solution


I sort of just guessed because I honestly have no idea:

a) Cut-off
b) Constant current
c) Constant Current
d) Constant Current
e) Saturation

I don't know why, but I am having a hard time understanding some of the concepts in the book we are using (Microelectronic Circuits and Devices 2nd, Horenstein) so these problems are giving me trouble. The book seems to be really vague.
 
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I would first need to know how your text defines the different regions. Do they show a graph of i on the y-axis vs. Vce on the x-axis and then define the various regions?
 
Yes, they do I on y-axis and Vce on x-axis.
 
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Yes, they do I on y-axis and Vce on x-axis.

Do they superimpose a piecewise-linear graph on top of one or more of the i-V curves? And is the family of curves for various values of Vbe or ib?
 
I've attached an image of the graph shown in the book.
 

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OK, so there are just three regions : cutoff, saturation and active.

So - how about looking carefully at the graph and making your decisions? BTW there are no numbers given on your graph but assume that "saturation" implies Vbe > Vce and "cutoff" implies Vbe < 0.6V. Make your choices & I'll help you if needed.

Keep in mind that all the voltages given are with respect to "ground". So for example in case (b), Vce = 6 - 1.4 = 4.6V, not 6V.

EDIT: not to spoil your day, but you got only 2 out of 5 right so far. :redface:
 
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Here's what I came up with:

a) Constant current (Vce > Vbe)
b) Constant current (Vce > Vbe)
c) Saturation (Vce = Vbe)
d) Cutoff (Vbe < 0.6)
e) Saturation (Vce < Vbe)
 
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OK except possibly for (c). I say "possibly" because here Vce = Vbe puts us right on the borderline between active and saturation. (Actually most people would consider that saturation.) So you have done well unless you were just lucky ...
 

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