What size square mild steel pipe will support load

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The discussion revolves around determining the minimum size of a square mild steel pipe required to support a static load of approximately 500 lbs. The context involves mechanical considerations related to the bending of the pipe when used to hold up a gangway temporarily for repairs. Participants explore the implications of load distribution, material properties, and safety factors.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the scenario as a simply-supported beam or second class lever and provides calculations regarding the bending stress and yield factor of safety.
  • Another participant questions whether the proposed square pipe will indeed support the load based on the calculations provided.
  • A further response emphasizes the importance of ensuring that the load is not concentrated on a fine line across the beam and raises concerns about the attachment method for the midspan load.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding whether the proposed pipe size will adequately support the load, and there is no consensus on the appropriate size or method for attachment. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on safety and structural integrity.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about material properties, load distribution, and the method of attachment, which have not been fully explored or resolved in the discussion.

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Can anyone please help me with a question re the minimum size square steel pipe needed to bear a load. I loved physics but never took mechanical engineering. I am rigging a winch to one end of a pipe to lift a static load (holding up a gangway temporarily to repair). The gangway weighs around 500 lbs., and will be supported in the middle (essentially all of the weight). The proposed pipe is mild steel, 2.5 inch square, 12 feet long, 1/8 inch wall thickness, and connected at the other end and in the middle to supports. In essence, would the pipe bend if holding that load at 6 feet out from the support? What size pipe would bear the load? Thanks!
 
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So far, it sounds like you have a simply-supported beam or second class lever. If the yield factor of safety is 2.0, and if the allowable bending stress of your square tube material is Sb = 157.5 MPa, and if your load is statically applied, then your beam stress level would be R = sigma/Sb = (151.9 MPa)/(157.5 MPa) = 96.4 %. For a given value of Sb, you want to ensure R does not exceed 100 %.
 
Sorry for my ignorance... but does that mean that the square pipe in question will support the load? Thanks
 
R > 100 % indicates a component is overstressed. Notice the value of R in post 2, which is for the proposed beam size described in post 1.

After lifting, support (prop) the load with additional, stable supports, before getting human body parts underneath the load.

How do you propose to attach the midspan load to the beam such that the load is not concentrated on a fine line across the beam, and also does not slip longitudinally along the beam if (when) the lever angle is steep?
 
Thanks for the follow-up.
 

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