What will happen if two ends of diode are joined?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a diode, specifically a p-n junction diode, when its two ends are joined together. Participants explore the implications of this action on current flow, potential differences, and the underlying physics of diodes. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical experimentation.

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  • One participant suggests that joining the ends of a diode could create a continuous current flow due to the potential difference across the depletion region, questioning if this can be likened to a battery.
  • Another participant asserts that shorting the diode will result in current flowing through the short circuit.
  • A suggestion is made to conduct an experiment using a multimeter to observe the effects directly, highlighting the accessibility of diodes for such tests.
  • It is proposed that the width of the p-n junction will change until the potential is minimized, at which point no further current will flow.
  • A participant critiques the initial question, stating that semiconductor texts provide thorough explanations and elaborates on the limitations of the diffusion potential, emphasizing that current flow requires an external voltage.

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Participants express differing views on the consequences of joining the ends of a diode, with some asserting that current will flow while others argue that it will not without an external voltage. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Participants reference concepts such as diffusion potential, depletion region, and the behavior of bound charges, indicating a reliance on specific definitions and assumptions that may not be universally agreed upon.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals studying semiconductor physics, electronics, or those curious about practical applications and behaviors of diodes in circuits.

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Here i am discussing about diode made up of p-n junction.

what will happen if we join two ends of diode?
Due to diffusion, there is a potential difference across depletion region.if we consider this as a battery(can we do so?) then there will be flow of continuous current through the external joint.
But i think there will no flow of current or very little flow of current because flow of current will cause I^2 R losses, since our source has no stored energy in it so it can not transfer a continuous supply of current.

please tell me your answer. and also don't forget to write where am i wrong in my explanation(i know that is wrong)...
 
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you have just shorted out the diode so the current will flow through the short circuit

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Try it, and use your tools (hopefully a multimeter at a minimum) to see what is going on. Diodes are cheap and plentiful, so the experiment won't cost you much.
 
The width of the PN junction changes until the potential minimises and then no more current will flow.
 
vkash,

I can't believe I am seeing a question like this, since semiconductor texts explain this so thoroughly.

what will happen if we join two ends of diode?

See attachment.

Due to diffusion, there is a potential difference across depletion region.if we consider this as a battery(can we do so?) then there will be flow of continuous current through the external joint.

No, a battery is a chemical to electrical energy converter. The diffusion potential will be limited by the bound uncovered charges left behind after diffusion. The mobile electrons from the Nd dopant will diffuse into the p-type and annihilate a hole, leaving behind a Nd+ bound ion. The mobile holes from the Na dopant will diffuse into the n-type and annihilate a electron, leaving behind a Na- bound ion. These bound ions eventually form a back voltage (Vj or Vbi when the external voltage is zero) that keeps the mobile holes and electrons from crossing PN junction barrier. As you can see from the attachment, when no external voltage is applied, the junction voltage equals the sum of the contact potientials Vp and Vn. No current will exist unless an external voltage is applied across the PN contacts.

Ratch
 

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