What would happen if you let a full battery charge an empty

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The discussion revolves around the implications of connecting a full battery to an empty one of the same type, specifically focusing on the current that would flow between them and the potential dangers involved. The conversation touches on theoretical aspects, safety concerns, and practical considerations regarding battery charging and discharging.

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  • One participant questions how much current would flow between a full and an empty battery, considering the potential for wire melting or a controlled charging rate.
  • Another participant shares a warning received from a third party about the dangers of such a setup, expressing a desire to find a video demonstration of the phenomenon.
  • A participant reflects on the dangers of connecting the batteries and proposes using a resistor to control the current, while correcting their earlier misunderstanding about voltage drop and current flow through the resistor.

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Participants express concern about the safety of connecting the batteries, indicating a general agreement on the potential dangers, but there is no consensus on the exact behavior of the current flow or the best approach to safely manage the connection.

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Participants mention specific battery chemistry and voltage differences, but do not provide detailed assumptions or definitions that could clarify their statements. There are unresolved calculations regarding current and voltage drop across the resistor.

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Suppose you have a full battery and an empty one, both the same type, and you hook up positive to positive and negative to negative, and for this particular battery chemistry, the difference in voltage is great enough to commence charging of the negative one. How much current would likely travel between them? Wire melting / battery cooking current, or a more controlled rate of discharge / recharge?
 
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Well, mrBigGuy told me by PM that a similar set up would go ka-bam.
So I will not try that myself.
But I would really like to see a you-tube video of someone else doing it. I know there has to be someone who tried it, given all the skateboard crashes on you tube. But what keywords to use.
Anyone want to link me to such a video of one battery charging another and exploding?
 
Never mind. No You-Tube video is needed. I now fully believe how dangerous it is. Probably a much safer way to do it is to put a resister between the batteries scaled to the voltage difference, and put a heat sink on the resister. I thought of that idea before, but I abandoned it because of a silly math error. Suppose the voltage difference is 1.5v and a 3 Ohm resister is used to get 0.5 amps. I then calculated the voltage drop across the resister: V = IR = 0.5 x 3 = 1.5v. I incorrectly concluded that the 1.5v drop across the resister would consume the whole 1.5v difference between them, preventing any charging. After thinking about that some more, and now realize the 1.5v drop is the same drop that was there before, and current would still be 0.5A (and decreasing). If the current were somehow zero, the resister voltage drop would decrease to zero, contradicting the assumption.

Of course I'd never play with something like this. I'm just trying to understand the physics.
 
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