What's wrong with my integral ?

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of an integral involving a square root and a secant function. The original poster attempts to integrate the expression and subsequently differentiate the result to verify correctness, but encounters discrepancies when comparing the derived function to the original integrand.

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  • Participants discuss the integration process and the use of trigonometric substitutions. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the differentiation and the implications of the arcsecant function's definition and domain.

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Some participants offer guidance on checking the differentiation of the result and caution about the properties of the arcsecant function. There is an ongoing exploration of potential issues with the original poster's approach, particularly concerning the signs and definitions used in the calculations.

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Participants note the importance of considering the absolute value in the derivative of arcsecant and the multivalued nature of the function, which may affect the interpretation of results. There is also mention of alternative approaches, such as using arctangent, which may yield different boundaries.

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[tex]\int \frac{3\sqrt{x^2-16}}{2x}[/tex]

Let [tex]x = 4\sec\theta[/tex], [tex]dx = 4\sec\theta\tan\theta d\theta[/tex]. [tex]\theta = asec(x/4)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{3}{2}\int \frac{\sqrt{4^2(\sec^2\theta-1)}}{4\sec\theta}4\sec\theta\tan\theta d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\frac{3}{2}\int \frac{\sqrt{\tan^2\theta}}{\sec\theta}4\sec\theta\tan\theta d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\frac{4\times 3}{2}\int \tan^2\theta d\theta[/tex]

as [tex]tan^2 = sec^2-1[/tex]

[tex]6\int sec^2 d\theta - 6\int d\theta[/tex]

[tex]6 \tan\theta - 6\theta[/tex]

As [tex]\tan\theta = \frac{\sqrt{x^2-16}}{4}[/tex]

[tex]6 \tan\theta - 6\theta = \frac{3}{2}\sqrt{x^2-16} - 6 arcsec\left(\frac{x}{4}\right) + C[/tex]

I don't know what's wrong but when I plot it on graphmatica and derive it, it doesn't match with the original equation.
 
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That looks right to me. Remember that:

[tex]\frac{d(\mbox{sec}^{-1} x)}{dx}=\frac{1}{x\sqrt{x^2-1}}[/tex]
 
Why then, when I plot it on maple or on graphmatica, it's not the same thing at all. There's a problem somewhere...
 
Why don't you try differentiating it yourself to see if it gives you back the integrand. Also be careful with the sign of x. Strictly speaking, that should be an absolute value of x in the derivative of arcsecant I gave. And be careful with how arcsecant is defined. Remember it is a multivalued function like arccos, and you have to specify what you want the domain to be. (ie, is arcsec(1)=0, 2pi, 4 pi, ...?)
 
well since you're trying to plot it try using the arctangent alternative, the boundaries may be different.
 

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