Ivan Seeking said:On NBC, a group of undecided voters in Ohio were polled about their impressions of the debate. Unanimously they declared Kerry the winner. Several commented that he conveyed greater confidence as a leader.
I think what they mean is that his words actually convey information.
Ivan Seeking said:On NBC, a group of undecided voters in Ohio were polled about their impressions of the debate. Unanimously they declared Kerry the winner. Several commented that he conveyed greater confidence as a leader.
I think what they mean is that his words actually convey information.
I'm a Bush supporter, at this point, and I agree.
Again, I think this is a tactic and Bush's expectations have been lowered. The next two debates will finish with Bush as a win, and then tied (atleast in the poll's eyes)
Gokul43201 said:I thought Al Gore did a far better job than Bush in 2000.
Gokul43201 said:Say phatmonky, did this debate affect your slant in any way ? Did anyone gain/lose points in your evaluation ?
Who else here is closer to the fence than the average liberal/conservative ?
Spectre32 said:Yeah I don't really like debates, but i will tell you this.. My dad was in Vietnam as a front line medic. He was in the airfoce and got droped outta helicopters to go patch up the wounded. HE overall dosn't like either of them, but what really got him pissed off at kerry was that he said something in his closing speech about his serivce in Vietnam. Well I can say is, if you did do something good in that Hellish place, please answer me as to why your own "unit"(Swift Boat Vets) is condemming you. I think he stomped himself there. Over all my views haven't changed.
Oh BULL****, nobody paid my father for condemning him, nobody paid his father for condemning him...MY father was right there at monkey mountain, saaaammeee time period as Kerry...only my father didn't abuse the system to get out after 3.25 months. There is also a rapidly building case that it WAS a scam, if it wasn't then Kerry could just release his after action report for PH#1 along with the rest of his records.Smurf said:They're condemning him because they were paid to.
The fact that he won (not 1 but) 4 medals, 3 Purple Hearts and 1 Silver star (last time I checked) Convinces me he saw combat somewhere, either that or this is the biggest military scam I've ever heard of.
graphic7 said:Something Kerry kept mentioning caught my attention - he kept bringing up his service in Vietnam. On the same note, I noticed something that Bush was doing that caught my eye - not mentioning any part of his military service (even if it was only in the National Guard). Perhaps, Bush *knows* his service record isn't admirable of any attention whatsoever, therefore, he knows it's not smart of him to mention it. This might be hard for you to admit Kat, but don't you see that was somewhat validating Kerry's service record?
FLASH: Kerry stated: 'That's why they had to close down the subway in New York when the Republican Convention was there.' (Driving home point that Bush as not done enough to protect the country.)
The NYC subway did not close at all during the convention, according to a report on cable outlet NY1...
LOCKHART: DEBATE CONSENSUS A 'DRAW'
Unbeknownst to Kerry adviser Mike McCurry, a C-SPAN camera quietly followed McCurry as he found Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart on Spin Alley floor and asked him his impression of the debate. Lockhart candidly said to McCurry , “The consensus is it was a draw.”
Smurf said:I was referring to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (only public group I know of - Canadian)
Your father is one of the swift boat veterans for truth?
Saint said:what doe it mean "'Zingers and gotchas'"
Smurf said:Your right, In fact I think it was only brought up once by the dude asking the questions...
BTW, who writes those questions?
WEll, I think he did a crappy job of developing the questions. What about economy? health care? social security?Gokul43201 said:The questions were supposedly written by Jim Lehrer himself, the moderator, who is also the Host of Newshour, on PBS.
kat said:WEll, I think he did a crappy job of developing the questions. What about economy? health care? social security?
Gokul43201 said:The questions were supposedly written by Jim Lehrer himself, the moderator, who is also the Host of Newshour, on PBS.
Gokul43201 said:He wasn't allowed (by the guidelines agreed upon by the two sides) to ask questions relating those issues. The Bush lawyers insisted upon (and got) a full debate dedicated entirely to National Security.
Not his fault, that.
Ivan Seeking said:He still may have been given the subjects. I didn't hear this point clarified. Otherwise, I agree with Kat; the questions were too narrow.
Lehrer : ...Tonight‘s will last 90 minutes, following detailed rules of engagement worked out by representatives of the candidates. I have agreed to enforce their rules on them.
The umbrella topic is foreign policy and homeland security, but the specific subjects were chosen by me, the questions were composed by me, the candidates have not been told what they are, nor has anyone else.